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Zetsub 02-10-2013 02:46 PM

Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme - Indiegogo Campaign - New Tiers Added
 
*Current Greenlight Status*
http://i.imgur.com/iXFtdPZ.png
Vote for the game here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=197667538
We're now live on Steam Greenlight! We're slowly climbing the ranks but we need a lot more votes if we're going to be greenlit. If we get on Steam, we'll send a key to everyone who backed the game or bought it on Desura, which you can use for yourself or give to a friend.

Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme is a TG visual novel, focusing on 13 characters who suddenly have to adapt to a life as the opposite gender. It features lots of ridiculous transformations and 13 playable characters, each with different endings to unlock. Some characters have male love interests, others have female love interests and some even have both! Each character reacts to being transformed differently, so each playthrough will be different.

Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fKYwgCi4Ao

Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme is available for purchase via alphafunding on Desura. The first five characters are complete and the other eight will be released as they are developed. You can grab the game here, and there's also a free demo available too: http://www.desura.com/games/gender-b...wister-extreme

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Cheers
Lach / Zet

Kyril 02-10-2013 06:25 PM

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Don't post here often, indeed.

Funded at T2. Good luck.

Zetsub 02-10-2013 07:39 PM

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I swear I posted a few times last year!

But thanks for backing, it makes a huge difference.

The project is going really well so far, and if we keep up this momentum then we'll be able to complete our goal.

Cuchulin 02-11-2013 05:02 PM

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I'll almost certionaly contribute $10 and I'll try for twenty but i doubt you'll reach your goal in the time set.

Zetsub 02-11-2013 05:36 PM

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Thanks for considering donating! At this point, due to the mega donation, we'll definitely meet our 2k minimum, meaning we can finish what we have. Only one character will have transformation sequences, but we'll have a good chunk of game to show off.

I think we'll end up hitting our goal. Hopefully. I'm really excited to see how this will turn out :)

frice2000 02-11-2013 06:06 PM

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Something missing from that page is what are you shooting for in development time to each milestone release and such? Is any work already done?

Zetsub 02-11-2013 06:18 PM

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If we don't hit any of the milestones, we'll be able to get the game finished in two months. We're already beginning work on it now. As for work that's already done, we've completed over 90 sketches for the game, and we've written linear routes for the 'true' endings for each character. We still have a lot of work to do, namely the digital inking/colouring/shading and writing all the branching scenes, but we already have a lot done.

Zetsub 02-12-2013 04:22 PM

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In celebration of almost hitting 2k, we've posted a big update on the indiegogo page showing off the first character's male/female forms. And who knows, this specific character might be subject to even more transformations...

Scroll down to see it!

http://igg.me/at/GBDNATE/x/279846

tghawk555 02-12-2013 04:40 PM

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Do you mind if I question a couple of things about the characters?

For one, Lynn looks a little cross-eyed. I'm not sure if that's just how it's supposed to look or if I'm blind, but yeah... Also, her face seems a little stretched out, for lack of a better term. Mostly in her smile, I'd say.

Sorry if I come across as complaining: I'm actually not trying to be rude, if you can believe that. ^__^"

Zetsub 02-12-2013 04:55 PM

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Absolutely, questions are more than welcome. And constructive criticism is always good, so feel free to ask any more details about the game, I won't be at all offended.

As for the face being stretched out, it's the artists style. However, that isn't going to be the only character expression, each character will have several, so she won't be smiling like that for the entire game, that's for sure.

If anyone else has any extra questions, feel free to ask either here or on the project page! :)

Xodiac 02-12-2013 06:15 PM

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There's a big, BIG jump in tiers, from $25 to $800. You're not going to get many people contributing that much, but this project is in such a niche market that you may need too many of the smaller tiers to manage funding. Assuming no mega contributors, you'd need 200 people contributing! That's a lot.

I suggest adding a few mid-level tiers. A $100 tier and a $250 tier, for instance, would be a good draw to those with moderate amounts of money but not piles of it. As for what the rewards might be... Well, custom art by the projects artists would be good, or a custom short story of up to x words, or maybe something physical. I dunno. But something between $25 and $800 would probably get a few hits.

Zetsub 02-12-2013 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xodiac (Post 684885)
There's a big, BIG jump in tiers, from $25 to $800. You're not going to get many people contributing that much, but this project is in such a niche market that you may need too many of the smaller tiers to manage funding. Assuming no mega contributors, you'd need 200 people contributing! That's a lot.

I suggest adding a few mid-level tiers. A $100 tier and a $250 tier, for instance, would be a good draw to those with moderate amounts of money but not piles of it. As for what the rewards might be... Well, custom art by the projects artists would be good, or a custom short story of up to x words, or maybe something physical. I dunno. But something between $25 and $800 would probably get a few hits.

The funding tiers are similar to a lot of other fundraiser projects, the big tiers really aren't about getting value for your money but being able to support a project you're really passionate about. For example, the double fine kickstarter offered a $100 tier that offered a poster, but $250 to have that poster autographed.

And clearly it worked, we already received an $800 donation. We've received 40% of funding in three days, and I'm confident we're going to be a successful project. We've already received enough money to make the game in a playable state, but we need 5k to release the game at a level with which we'd be happy at.

EDIT - I'm going to have some discussions with the artist and see if we can come up with a new physical reward tier.

Edit 2 - Yep. We're in the process of updating the campaign now. Thanks for the suggestion :)

Edit 3 - New tiers are live!

Leonides 02-12-2013 10:23 PM

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Contributed and looking forward to the game!!!

Zetsub 02-12-2013 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonides (Post 684898)
Contributed and looking forward to the game!!!

Thanks leonides! It means a lot to us :D


Edit - New character art released to celebrate going over 50% of our goal IN ONLY THREE DAYS! http://dkdevil.deviantart.com/art/Ge...erek-354082443 If we continue this, not only will we be able to achieve our funding goal, but we'll able to make the routes 2x bigger through all the stretch goals!

Zetsub 02-14-2013 01:04 PM

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We've broken three thousand, and I know for a fact a lot of those backers come from process productions. So thanks for being awesome. You guys really are.

We just released the third character preview too: http://dkdevil.deviantart.com/art/Ge...-Ben-354261538

And it's also visible on the campaign page too. We're also in the midst of working on the 7th character at the moment, and it's going to be pretty awesome, and be as long as two regular routes. If we go over budget with this fundraiser, we'll focus on rewarding the backers and making the 7th route even bigger.

Zetsub 02-14-2013 02:38 PM

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funfun74 02-14-2013 03:31 PM

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Congrats on hitting your goal.

Zetsub 02-15-2013 01:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danio13 (Post 685136)
Congrats :D
I just hope the making of the game goes well
The last time I donated at indiegogo....well...nothing came out of the movie proposal...and that was 3 years ago...


Thanks! And don't worry, we're legally obligated to finish. We're going to post updates all during development too, like this one here: http://dkdevil.deviantart.com/art/Ge...-Dan-354467909

Zetsub 02-17-2013 03:43 AM

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Made a new video explaining our future plans for the project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ap9WoMsu-Y

Zetsub 02-17-2013 09:47 PM

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Finally we're relevant, we posted the first transformation sequence to e-hentai
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/568484/d1a264db44/

In sketch form. But still, we're just trying to get the word out as much as we can.

Luke2013 02-18-2013 08:52 AM

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Well I may not be able to donate but I have got about 5 of my friends interested in this and few said they might watch this.and donate whence can.

Zetsub 02-18-2013 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danio13 (Post 685582)
Glad to see the process is going nicely
Also, How does a visual novel work exactly? Sorry never played one before.

Basically like the X Change games, you choose your way through a story with character images and whatnot. It's kind of like an interactive TG comic, but there's a lot more dialogue because you don't have to redraw the characters for every single frame.

And the TG changes will occur in sequences, the character shown was Derek/Dina and she doesn't undergo that big a change initially, and she gets jealous that everyone has bigger boobs than her. The TG sequences will be much longer and drawn out than Dina was, that's for sure.

frice2000 02-18-2013 07:09 PM

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Congratulations on getting completely funded and making some of your stretch goals. I did go in funding at the $25 level, though I am a little concerned that all we've seen has been concept art and sketches and positively no screen shots of any kind. Have you done any work on the actual game and engine? Or is that all coming?

Zetsub 02-18-2013 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frice2000 (Post 685628)
Congratulations on getting completely funded and making some of your stretch goals. I did go in funding at the $25 level, though I am a little concerned that all we've seen has been concept art and sketches and positively no screen shots of any kind. Have you done any work on the actual game and engine? Or is that all coming?

No backgrounds are finished yet, so we can't really post any screenshots. But we've done over 100 sketches that will be updated for the final game. And we did have most of the script done, but we're now upgrading it for all the stretch goals.

Engine work is all done, we're just making it in Ren'Py.

SoylentOrange 02-24-2013 11:51 AM

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Good grief, that's pretty amazing you got funded so much, so quick. I'm pretty broke, sadly, but I passed the link along to some folks who wight not know of it. Do you have any more stretch goals to shoot for?

Zetsub 02-24-2013 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SoylentOrange (Post 686206)
Good grief, that's pretty amazing you got funded so much, so quick. I'm pretty broke, sadly, but I passed the link along to some folks who wight not know of it. Do you have any more stretch goals to shoot for?

We're just using the extra funds to expand the game, namely the $2500 backer routes. We have a lot of content and we don't want to bog the game down too much, as we do have other games planned after this.

The response has been crazy lol.

Luke2013 02-26-2013 07:52 AM

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I think the response was crazy because there's not many tg game out there and with process shown aswell.

Zetsub 03-01-2013 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danio13 (Post 686639)
Thinking of donating 25 bucks for the beta
Is it too late if I've donated already?

Nah. IGG doesn't add together contributions, so if you donated $10 and then a further $15 it won't add you to the $25 list, so you'll miss the automatic send out.

That being said, if you do that just let me know by sending me an email, and I'll send it to you after the initial batch of backers. I already have a few emails written down so just let me know if you do it, it won't be a hassle.

Zetsub 03-03-2013 01:35 AM

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You can send me an email at wallard11@hotmail.com

Zetsub 03-07-2013 07:00 PM

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We've added furries. Completely optional furries, but furries nonetheless.

http://dkdevil.deviantart.com/art/Ge...urry-358265286

OhZone 03-08-2013 10:50 PM

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OHYEAH! Cat girls always a win!

:D

Zetsub 03-08-2013 11:30 PM

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We're going to add fox girls too. Nekomimi versions as well. Nekomimi? She's not a cat... Foxmimi?

Whatever. Fox ears and a big bushy tail for Lynn are going to be in the final version of the game.

funfun74 03-09-2013 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danio13 (Post 687594)
KITSUNES TOO!!?
I am more hyped than I was for this game/novel/whatever 30 minutes ago
:D:D:D:D:D

And if you're looking for ideas for TFs, think about putting in IB TFs (increased beauty)

IB is already in there. Look at Dina, she goes from flat chested to not so flat chest also hair growth. But sadly no wolf or dog girl loving in the game. :(

Zetsub 03-09-2013 08:16 PM

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So it's called an IB TF? We were calling it 'boosting' internally ~

Natalya gets one of those TFs, as does the first backer character (in the current plan at least).

So yeah, they'll be in the game too.

Zetsub 03-10-2013 03:26 PM

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Foxgirls.

http://dkdevil.deviantart.com/art/Ge...xgal-358793231

Zetsub 03-11-2013 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danio13 (Post 687799)
Nice :D
So how long will each person's story take to complete.

With all the different endings... Hour to an hour and a half..? I'm not 100% sure, but there will be about 60 endings in total, so there will be a decent amount of content to go through (that's for the paid version, free version will be half the size)

Luke2013 03-11-2013 08:13 PM

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I've never played this type of game before but my question is will the game have multiple dialogue choices like the fallout series.

Zetsub 03-11-2013 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke2013 (Post 687844)
I've never played this type of game before but my question is will the game have multiple dialogue choices like the fallout series.

Umm... Sorta..?

The way Visual Novels work is at specific points in the story, you choose what actions the character will take, and this is often in the form of dialogue. Unlike Fallout/Mass Effect, you don't control every conversation. However, the impact of your choices is *much* greater than other games, with the story splitting off into very different directions as an impact of your choices. None of that '300 Endings to Fallout 3 but it's all just a few line changes'.

So there's less choice than Fallout, but your choices have more impact. That's what visual novels are like. It'll be the same with this game.

Luke2013 03-12-2013 05:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetsub (Post 687845)
Umm... Sorta..?

The way Visual Novels work is at specific points in the story, you choose what actions the character will take, and this is often in the form of dialogue. Unlike Fallout/Mass Effect, you don't control every conversation. However, the impact of your choices is *much* greater than other games, with the story splitting off into very different directions as an impact of your choices. None of that '300 Endings to Fallout 3 but it's all just a few line changes'.

So there's less choice than Fallout, but your choices have more impact. That's what visual novels are like. It'll be the same with this game.

Ahh ok then sounds really interesting and different in a good way.

Zetsub 03-12-2013 03:40 PM

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Only 8 hours left to get the full game!

Luke2013 03-12-2013 07:52 PM

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This is my last question aswell are you guys thinking of making it for android/iPhone aswell.?

Zetsub 03-12-2013 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke2013 (Post 687911)
This is my last question aswell are you guys thinking of making it for android/iPhone aswell.?

In theory we could, but we'd really have to scale down the graphics a LOT and it would look terrible. It's a game that'll best be enjoyed on a PC/Laptop.

Zetsub 04-27-2013 04:19 PM

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New update on the project is live here: http://fav.me/d6396wv

Din's so cute ~

If you want up to date updates, watch DK on deviantArt: http://dkdevil.deviantart.com/

Zetsub 05-04-2013 01:37 PM

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And here's what everyone was waiting for, the first transformation sequence in full colour ~ http://fav.me/d643fah

NuclearKite 05-04-2013 03:14 PM

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this may sound shitty, but is that what people paid all that money for?

Zetsub 05-04-2013 04:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NuclearKite (Post 695225)
this may sound shitty, but is that what people paid all that money for?

It's the same art style the game has always had. The money went towards the writing and the number of images. We're not posting everything to the weekly updates, a lot more images have been done than what we're revealing now, as we don't want to spoil the entire game. But yeah, this is what people paid for. The final game is going to have 13 straight TG sequences, as well as a bunch of additional transformations.

It does sound a bit shitty, but that's okay. Not everyone is going to like the game, especially in a niche as diverse as TG where people have very different views on what sort of art is okay. Lots of people like the 2D stuff, other's done and stick exclusively to 3D stuff in poser. We were never going to please everyone :)

Quarma 05-04-2013 06:09 PM

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The art's alright. It's not SPECTACULAR or GORGEOUS or ADJECTIVE but it's solid and well-proportioned.

Dark Horseman 05-04-2013 11:33 PM

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The majority of funds come from the $2500 contributors who want to be a character in the game. Granted, they could have commissioned an artist to make similar art for much, much less, but it's not interactive and I guess that's how they want to be "seen" by other people playing the game. You might find that ridiculous, but honestly, if you were making 6 figures, you can do whatever the hell you want with it.

Their project goal was only $5000, which is believable, but the momentum got going so well from these individual backers that other people are bandwagoning (would you pay $10-20 for a project only 5% funded?). It was a pretty brilliant perk funding strategy imo.

The art isn't this http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Omens-of-War-199687164, but it has polish, and it's one of the few tg games that uses original content rather than caption an image of a famous model and say it's tg; hence the added value.

icannever4get 05-11-2013 06:14 AM

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People are willing to pay a lot of money for fetish porn. Once you get to the point where you can't get off to vanilla stuff, you just have to go searching and you'll willing to make do with anything you can. It's sad, but, hey, being a fetishist sort of sucks.

MeMyselfI 05-12-2013 02:13 PM

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I feel like a LOT of people posting here do not understand the first thing about making video games. There is bound to be some disappointment, because the scope of what some people are expecting is much much higher than the project's resources can allow. I'd also presume that the developers do not have industry experience making or publishing video games. This is more of a passion project than anything.

With that said, take it for what it is - a niche title for an extremely niche audience. Be happy with whatever you get, and hope that the developers have the dedication to see it through to the end.

Personally, I wish the developers the best of luck. As someone who does this for a living, I know it can be a slow process at times. Just keep your heads down and keep pushing forward. More than anything, *****resist the temptation to add more scope***** - it is better to create a short, polished product than a longer one that isn't enjoyable.

Zetsub 05-18-2013 05:52 PM

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Don't worry, we're keeping everything organised. We've made a few removals/additions to the original plan (this was expected), but we haven't veered off course yet.

New update is live, shows Yael with giant boobs and a new TG before/after: http://fav.me/d65qsj2

Zetsub 06-08-2013 02:07 PM

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Kitsune update is live: http://fav.me/d68afkl


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