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Unread 04-20-2013   #42
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Re: Bombing in Boston

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Originally Posted by vincent_richter View Post
First off, "Public Safety" exception to Miranda. It's been around just as long, and certainly applies to people WILLING TO BLOW THE SHIT OUT OF FELLOW CITIZENS.
That's not the point of that exception. Complete pieces of shit have rights too. That was the whole point of the Miranda warning in the first place. The reason that's read to everyone on arrest was because a kidnapper and rapist got away on a technicality just because his rights were violated. There's a good argument for the public safety exception because these guys were bombers and it's quite possible that there are other devices out there. It's not because he injured and killed a lot of people.

It's also worth reminding people that whatever else he is, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is an American citizen.

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Third, I can't be the only one to think this is Chechnya coming back to bite us square on the ass.
You probably are. Besides making complaints that the Russians were too harsh on their own people and allowing some Chechen political refugees into the country, we didn't get involved in Chechnya at all. You might be thinking of the 2008 incident between Georgia and Russia that John McCain tried briefly to make a campaign issue. If I were to have made a list of probable organizations and ethnicities likely to have perpetrated the bombing, Chechens would have been down near the bottom along with the Tamil Tigers and the Real IRA.
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