The MILF: To be or not to be?

[Alchemical Night]

Hi there,


As in the past - as familiar forum members will note - I may have to explain the meaning of the thread title, just a bit, as the theme may be a little vague .


Recently, and among others in the past few months, I have noticed that the concept of transformations surrounding the idea of MILFs (ie. a mother I'd like to fuck, an attractive middle aged woman, a sometimes domestic, suburban woman between 40 and their 50's etc) has become nascent and quietly popular - the idea floated, conflating with TG/Were-Woman tropes, not long ago in http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/22821a6d24/weremilf , as just one example.


Reflecting on this for a while, and noting that though a fairly niche concept, it does offer some fertile ground for examination; a sentiment stoked by one artist's, by the name of blackshirtboy, recent work on the subject: a young woman donning a string of pearls to undergo a transformation into a shapely, older but amorous persona.


http://blackshirtboy.deviantart.com/...arls-456847758


Struck by the vividness and a little inspired myself, I would like to open the floor to a wider discussion on the concept, its potential for exploration and how others may look upon it.


Thanks again,


Alchemical Night.

[Soren]

Thank you, no really because this is what I want to see when I look at age progression or increased beauty threads. A plain looking woman turning into a sexy milf, or a nerdy girl turning into an extremely attractive older woman. Don`t really have any other examples but I approve to carry this thread along.

[BoutiqueTiffy]

I approve of this.

[Vengeance1701]

I am the owner of GirlsTFReturns and I support this message.

[tghawk555]

Ah, I was also struck by this particular sequence! Though, I initially thought it might be a TG (since I saw the thumbnail first). Actually, I'd like it even more if it was a TG.

I suppose this concept is somewhat interesting. I mean, one of the initial things to consider is this: if someone (male or female) is turned into a MILF, do they suddenly have children as well, or have they been transformed into a woman that they know who is already a mother, or are they supposed to become pregnant and with child as a result of the transformation? (If memory serves, an older woman with a sexual appetite for younger men is commonly known as a cougar. Does that mean that those older women without children are cougars and those with children are MILFs?)

[Zettik]

I'm really glad that Milf TFs have been getting more and more popular lately, it's been far too scarce for too long! I myself have written a couple of stories set around this.
The MILF Machine
The MILF Machine: A Day in the Life
MILF Machine Lite

Originally Posted by tghawk555

I suppose this concept is somewhat interesting. I mean, one of the initial things to consider is this: if someone (male or female) is turned into a MILF, do they suddenly have children as well, or have they been transformed into a woman that they know who is already a mother, or are they supposed to become pregnant and with child as a result of the transformation? (If memory serves, an older woman with a sexual appetite for younger men is commonly known as a cougar. Does that mean that those older women without children are cougars and those with children are MILFs?)

I've always seen milf TFs as a primarily physical or aesthetic transformation, rather than a literal milf. I think most people define milf as interchangeable with cougar. However, I think that a story with your concept would be pretty neat.

[Ficfactor]

I must say that I'm thrilled to see MILF tfs (MILFification?) catching the imagination of posters and growing in popularity.

I especially enjoy seeing well-established younger characters presented as MILFs. I've noticed that the Sailor Senshi seem to be a particularly popular target for this.

[Zettik]

Originally Posted by Ficfactor

I must say that I'm thrilled to see MILF tfs (MILFification?) catching the imagination of posters and growing in popularity.

I especially enjoy seeing well-established younger characters presented as MILFs. I've noticed that the Sailor Senshi seem to be a particularly popular target for this.

Is this just a standalone pic, or is there a full doujin?

[Alchemical Night]

Originally Posted by Zettik

Is this just a standalone pic, or is there a full doujin?

Hi again,


It does bring a smile to see this topic beginning to take off, and that others can resonate with the concept too, on different levels. Taking a look at Ficfactor's post and Zettik's query, I have taken to some research and with interesting results.


To put that pic in context, it's actually a coloured page from not simply a single work, but from a series of them; each one dedicated to the respective post-heroic lives of the Sailor Senshi (ie. Usagi, Ami, Rei, Makoto and Mina) at the age of 30.


This particular page was taken from Mina's story; this, as are all five, penned by the artist, or group, known as "Jyura" or Jack-Pot.


Following some thought, I have come to a few conclusions. As a application of the "milf" concept, this is interesting, though maybe a bit of a semantic stretch to classify a woman at age 30 as a classic "milf". Still, otherwise, some of what transpires does fit the bill, at least as far as it might where hentai is involved .


In the second - and of particular importance to the forum - would be the tone of these works - not to mention some dubious material. In all, these do employ the classic tropes of hentai and it's sub-genres in all their occasionally preposterous, absurd glory. Though, anyone wishing for some light hearted fun may be disappointed; these stories being almost uniformly subdued, depressing and often mean in their mode - the senshi at age 30 all having to struggle with mundane issues which devolve into the unsavoury, possibly leaving a reader rather... deflated, by the end.


The exception to this would be Rei Hino's story (aka. Sailor Mars). She does turning things around in her own stubborn, inimitable way, though it remains that this story itself is very, very dubious due to some taboo issues found therein.


I can't stress enough that this story would only be for the curious with a strong constitution and threshold for some very unpleasant material, even by the standards of some irreverent hentai.


Otherwise, these stories of the senshi at age 30 can be found here at Pururin.com http://pururin.com/browse/848/10/jack-pot.html .


Thanks,


Alchemical Night.

[thrandrall]

Well I've got a few concepts along these lines that I'm interested in developing further...direct MILF or TG concepts, etc. Got a TG piece coming from AutumnNatural that explores a few looks a little more too - whether in period clothing/etc...

It's kind of interesting to see exactly where the age concepts break out - between something like a 30ish MILF or something older like the portrayals in bamtfartist's work. There was also a story I found on fictionmania a few weeks ago (can't remember the title now) but it involved a younger guy going for a sex change operation with additional physical changes to make him resemble an older woman as well....like his mother's age or even older. A little different.

There's also something like the story "Payback's a Cougar" - http://www.mcstories.com/PaybackIsACougar/index.html

I've been considering getting that one illustrated...or a similar transformation progression sequence.

[Ficfactor]

Originally Posted by Zettik

Is this just a standalone pic, or is there a full doujin?

As Alchemical Night intimated, it's one page from a doujin, which is itself part of a series detailing post-heroic lives of the Sailor Senshi. That panel is coloured because I requested it in a drawthread on /a/.

Originally Posted by thrandrall

Well I've got a few concepts along these lines that I'm interested in developing further...direct MILF or TG concepts, etc. Got a TG piece coming from AutumnNatural that explores a few looks a little more too - whether in period clothing/etc...

While I enjoy both the MILF tf and TG, I find that I don't enjoy them together. Or rather, the TG supersedes the MILFification, and it becomes a pure TG pic to me. I find a similar problem with bimbofication and racial change images. I love FtF, but MtF makes any other changes (age/build/race/species!) into secondary ones.

[Katsumend]

Originally Posted by Alchemical Night

Hi there,


As in the past - as familiar forum members will note - I may have to explain the meaning of the thread title, just a bit, as the theme may be a little vague .


Recently, and among others in the past few months, I have noticed that the concept of transformations surrounding the idea of MILFs (ie. a mother I'd like to fuck, an attractive middle aged woman, a sometimes domestic, suburban woman between 40 and their 50's etc) has become nascent and quietly popular - the idea floated, conflating with TG/Were-Woman tropes, not long ago in http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/22821a6d24/weremilf , as just one example.

In most of the porn I've seen (real-life not hentai) milf 100% of the time means Mom I'd Like to Fuck, not that 40s, 50s definition you've got going on there. Woman could be 18 and be a milf. Women in their 40s or 50s are typically referred to as "matures" from what I've seen.

BSB left a comment on "Milf Pearls" that he mainly meant the sequence to show a woman getting older/curvier, not becoming a mother, which was disappointing to me.

Anyway, I'm definitely going to commission a sequence of this in the future, although the emphasis is going to be on the 'mom' part, not on the middle-aged part.