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Unread 07-13-2012   #1
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Unhappy Closing my Doors

Hi everyone,
after some people uploaded some of my works on E-Hentai Galleries without my permission i had a very hard talk with one of the Admins from that page. After 16 houres she deleted 3 of my galleries, but one hour later the next gallerie was opend with my work without permission. After that i searched that guy and hoped that i found him on FurAffinity.net. I send him a message to stop it.

So why do i delete all my stuff and close my Doors? After that guy and another guy uploaded my works on that place i got 342 email in just 2 houres. Not one was positive. After i read all emails (the best was that i should be killed for a crappy work like this) i decided that i close my doors completely. I've ever workd hard to bring you good pictures or animations, a lot of you people liked what i createt; Thank you for this. I am still around as lurker in the community. My work is complete deleted now and i say Good Bye and let the Boobs expand.
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Sorry to see you go. I have read every single one of your stories and some of your animations where among my favorites.
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Like, oh noes!
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Re: Closing my Doors

I'm not sure if I've seen any of your animations. I just recently discovered the comic called " the geisha," and now I find out that you're the creator.

Maybe its because I grew up in the 16 bit era of video games that I have pretty low standards when it comes to what I like to see in art, but I thought the Geisha was great. And there was one about Bimbo spray, not sure if you were responsible for it but I liked that too.

I get the feeling that if this has happened to you then its happened to many others. There's no telling how many fetish artists were shut down because of public reaction to their works.

"Good bye and lets the boobs expand" is definetly goin' on my tombstone.
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Re: Closing my Doors

If someone uploads your art somewhere without your permission, obviously that's one person that likes it. You shouldn't get angry at that, just enjoy it.

Second, why are you saying goodbye to the process community when it was e-hentai that wronged you (or rather the people that emailed you)? Just because 342 people hate your work doesn't mean that EVERYBODY does.

Third, instead of getting offended by people saying "you should be killed for crappy work", just ignore it, and find something to improve in your art. Maybe a bimbo has too much muscle definition? Maybe the pose is too rigid? Maybe the boobs are oddly shaped? Stare hard at your art, and find some way to make it better. I have never seen you ask anyone even once for ways that you could improve. You should try that.

EDIT: Also, not to be mean, but this should probably go in "Flame and Bullshit", since there isn't actually any BE here.
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If someone uploads your art somewhere without your permission, obviously that's one person that likes it. You shouldn't get angry at that, just enjoy it.
I don't think he was overly angry at that, but at the resulting hate-mail that came in from it.

I have no real say on that matter though. Most of his artwork has been hit or miss for me. Quite a few good ideas, but sometimes elements of a piece got in the way and caused me to not like it. I'm not going to miss him, but I do encourage him to not get discouraged. To quote some oft used phrase, 'As long as there's two people on this Earth, someone is going to want someone else dead,' and to that end people are simply going to hate on you for what you do.
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I don't think he was overly angry at that, but at the resulting hate-mail that came in from it.

I have no real say on that matter though. Most of his artwork has been hit or miss for me. Quite a few good ideas, but sometimes elements of a piece got in the way and caused me to not like it. I'm not going to miss him, but I do encourage him to not get discouraged. To quote some oft used phrase, 'As long as there's two people on this Earth, someone is going to want someone else dead,' and to that end people are simply going to hate on you for what you do.
It doesn't paint a really pretty picture of his target audience, either.
I mean, if you're particularly protective of your work (as WIPO and Berne require you to be to claim copyright), that's one thing.
The issue here seems to be that he aggressively pursued copyright infringment, and got death threats because he cut off the suppliers.
That'd be like threatening BustArtist (not comparing quality here, just business models) because he charges for his works and pursues infringers.

Nobody should be surprised - or, worse, committing misdemeanors (not hyperbole, fuckers, look it up) - because he left.
They've only themselves to blame.
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It doesn't paint a really pretty picture of his target audience, either.
I mean, if you're particularly protective of your work (as WIPO and Berne require you to be to claim copyright), that's one thing.
The issue here seems to be that he aggressively pursued copyright infringment, and got death threats because he cut off the suppliers.
That'd be like threatening BustArtist (not comparing quality here, just business models) because he charges for his works and pursues infringers.

Nobody should be surprised - or, worse, committing misdemeanors (not hyperbole, fuckers, look it up) - because he left.
They've only themselves to blame.
No, I think he was actually mad at the hatemail more than anything. You can hear that in the tone of his original message. His art was free to begin with, so that alone should not have been the deal breaker for him.

Look at everything he said and you will have to conclude that he just didn't like the disapproving emails and took the whole thing way to hard. Do you guys remember gammarai? or whatever her name was? She pulled a similar stunt because of bad reviews, suffered a stroke, and said "IT'S ALL YOUR PEOPLE'S FAULT" and shut down her site. So when I come across these situations, I just shake my head and say, wtf, artist. wtf.

Not only that, but pulling your site and art is exactly what your haters want anyway. By doing that, your just letting them win. Can't let trolls beat you, man. Stiff upperlip and all that.
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Re: Closing my Doors

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If someone uploads your art somewhere without your permission, obviously that's one person that likes it. You shouldn't get angry at that, just enjoy it.

Second, why are you saying goodbye to the process community when it was e-hentai that wronged you (or rather the people that emailed you)? Just because 342 people hate your work doesn't mean that EVERYBODY does.

Third, instead of getting offended by people saying "you should be killed for crappy work", just ignore it, and find something to improve in your art. Maybe a bimbo has too much muscle definition? Maybe the pose is too rigid? Maybe the boobs are oddly shaped? Stare hard at your art, and find some way to make it better. I have never seen you ask anyone even once for ways that you could improve. You should try that.

EDIT: Also, not to be mean, but this should probably go in "Flame and Bullshit", since there isn't actually any BE here.

I agree, you are taking the situation way to seriously. An artist has to be able to take criticism of their art or else they will never improve. Not only that, but I hardly think that your reasons merit committing internet harikiri. So someone posted your work on E-hentai. Big deal. They wouldn't have taken the time unless they were trying to archive your work for future reference. I wouldn't be surprised if your work resurfaces long after your self inflicted banishment, anyway, and I'll be glad to be able to see your art recirculating again. But none the less, sorry to see you go. Wish I had a chance to look at your gallery one last time before you pulled the plug.
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Re: Closing my Doors

Sorry to see that, but you can maybe still upload to mediafire or something and have us download to see it?
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Let it be a valuable lesson. Don't let people shit stomp your parade. Have the confidence to do what you want to do.
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its a shame i never got a chance to see your work
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