Something that is not often factored in to BE

[abingdondr]

Pain is part of plearure. its damn fine line.
I however see the point of Massive swelling being painfull.
Once years back I was bitten by a wasp on my hand. After about 15 mins it looked like a rubber dish glove over inflated with water. Believe me when I tell you, it wasn't 'erotic'. ;P

[Lurking Guy]

Tranny, huh?

I wondered, before, how it could be possible that no single woman was ever vain/stupid/masochistic enough to treat herself with the same hormone therapy that trannies use in order to try and modify herself. And then I realized you'd have to be insane to use it for anything other than sex change. And that it would, more likely than not, be ineffective.

[Sephie]

To those who want to see pictures of my budding breasts, I am towards the end of tanner stage ii of female breast development, maybe at the beginning of stage iii. In otherwords I have the breasts of a tween. No I will not engage in presenting images of their development, especially not on a fetish forum.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_stage

Originally Posted by abingdondr

Pain is part of plearure. its damn fine line.
I however see the point of Massive swelling being painfull.
Once years back I was bitten by a wasp on my hand. After about 15 mins it looked like a rubber dish glove over inflated with water. Believe me when I tell you, it wasn't 'erotic'. ;P

From personal experience breast growth is on the pain side of the line. Written while experiencing proof. It ranges from dull to sharp and while there can be a fine line twixt pleasure and pain, in the case of most aches the distinction is sharp

Originally Posted by Lurking Guy

Tranny, huh?

I wondered, before, how it could be possible that no single woman was ever vain/stupid/masochistic enough to treat herself with the same hormone therapy that trannies use in order to try and modify herself. And then I realized you'd have to be insane to use it for anything other than sex change. And that it would, more likely than not, be ineffective.

Wow. I hope you are just ignorant of the connotations of the term you used to describe me. I also hope you don't go up to random black people and refer to them as niggers.

Let me give you some advice: don't use emotionally charged pejoratives to refer to people. If a term is frequently used by bigots to refer to a group they are bigoted against, it probably is not one that members of that group enjoy being called.

[Abazaba]

I dunno, I would think it would be painful at first. As the new tissue grows and the skin expands. However I would think later one it would be easier. The skin and tissue is not as new or sensitive as it once was. Something like a water balloon, crude metaphor but stay with me. The initial bit of growth takes more energy but at around the mid point it gets a lot easier till the rubber gets close to its max psi. I would think the same would be true of tissue. Not to mention the hormones and the sensation of something new that has never been there before would only add to the pain/tingle.

Then again what do I know?

[Coronan]

*scritches head* I think, if I got this right (and while I'm no doctor I have heard various medical relatives argue about this before) that when the body is exposed to a constant amount of pain over a shortish period of time that is not accompanied by shock - not getting an arm slowly ripped off, for example - then the brain produces endorphines to help deal with it.

So essentially, on a level we rarely recognise, we actually enjoy it. It's why people eat really hot spicy food, it actually hurts but we get a kick out of the endorphines. I figure that in B.E a similar thing might happen, though I think I recall a few stories where it really did hurt until the process was done. The other half the time, when the process is magical etc... well magic has the 'and they shall know only pleasure!' switch :P

I hope your spurt becomes less painful for you, though I think telling people on this forum that your boobs are having a growth spurt will mean that a lot hope it doesn't stop for quite some time to come hehe


Out of interest, I know some girls who swelled up while on birth control, I never stopped to ask if that hurt too. I should have. Knowledge, anyone?

[Laughingman]

That's why all of my stories involve magic or something so that the real world doesn't factor into it. Sure, we want realism to a point, but we're talking about a woman's breast growing four or eight cup sizes in a matter of minutes and sometimes seconds...realism has already been generally disregarded :P.

[Katt]

I dunno, most of Mako's TG movies sound awfully painful during the transformation. His old 3D ones and the live 'new' ones.

[Sephie]

Originally Posted by Coronan

*scritches head* I think, if I got this right (and while I'm no doctor I have heard various medical relatives argue about this before) that when the body is exposed to a constant amount of pain over a shortish period of time that is not accompanied by shock - not getting an arm slowly ripped off, for example - then the brain produces endorphines to help deal with it.

So essentially, on a level we rarely recognise, we actually enjoy it. It's why people eat really hot spicy food, it actually hurts but we get a kick out of the endorphines. I figure that in B.E a similar thing might happen, though I think I recall a few stories where it really did hurt until the process was done. The other half the time, when the process is magical etc... well magic has the 'and they shall know only pleasure!' switch :P

I hope your spurt becomes less painful for you, though I think telling people on this forum that your boobs are having a growth spurt will mean that a lot hope it doesn't stop for quite some time to come hehe

Out of interest, I know some girls who swelled up while on birth control, I never stopped to ask if that hurt too. I should have. Knowledge, anyone?

I hope they don't stop for a long time. Otherwise I'll need implants

[Lurking Guy]

Originally Posted by Herr Onymous-Bosch

Wow. I hope you are just ignorant of the connotations of the term you used to describe me. I also hope you don't go up to random black people and refer to them as niggers.

Let me give you some advice: don't use emotionally charged pejoratives to refer to people. If a term is frequently used by bigots to refer to a group they are bigoted against, it probably is not one that members of that group enjoy being called.

Didn't know shorthand for transexual was considered offensive. Especially considering a friend of mine refers to herself as such. I think you're just overly sensitive. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Actually...

The term you used was mostly created with a negative connotation associated with it. That doesn't mean some people won't adapt it and accept it, (such as the word punk), but you should be careful when using it.

*Stuff I didn't know until now*

[Sephie]

Originally Posted by Lurking Guy

Didn't know shorthand for transexual was considered offensive. Especially considering a friend of mine refers to herself as such. I think you're just overly sensitive. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

You didn't hurt my feelings. I was just warning you that the term you used was coined as a pejorative. There are individuals who refer to themselves using that term, but this is similar to people who refer to themselves as niggers, or gay men who call themselves faggots.

Just because one person refers to themselves using that term, it does not make it all right for you to use it to refer to other individuals. First off you are not trans so, you have not experienced the bigotry that often comes alongside that term, and thus even individuals who refer to themselves jokingly as trannies might find your usage as an outsider offensive. Secondly just because one person is comfortable with the term does not mean that other are. The majority of transfolk will have a problem with you using that term.

I personally would prefer not to be refered as such, but it is not that big of deal. Most of the people who have called me that were biggots. You are perhaps the first person to use that term referring to me and not telling me that I am an abomination, a whore, a faggot, or other such nonsense.

The short hand most used by transfolk is trans not tranny.

Originally Posted by NLGJA Stylebook supplement

tranny: Often a pejorative term for a transgender person, it is now being reclaimed by some transgender people. Caution: still offensive when used as an epithet and should be avoided except in quotes or as someone's self-identified term.

http://www.nlgja.org/resources/stylebook_english.html#t

[Coronan]

Sorry, that last statement ticks me off.

Almost everyone is a victim of abusive language, behaviour, bigotry or just generally bullying at some point in their life. How you choose do deal with it is your own choice.

I'm a white, heterosexual Scottish male in his late 20's. The rest of my family married into english families and live down south. I go down there and I get abuse because our money looks slightly different, I 'talk funny' because my accent isn't english. It's racism pure and simple.

I've met 70 year old women who carry scars from being bullied in school. African-Americans who complained that as a 'whitey' I had it easy until I pointed out that my entire nation was subject to several attempts to breed us/wipe us/force us out by our next door neighbours. I work with children whose parents have given - not been forced to give, mind - them up into care. That fucks them up, probably for the rest of their life.

Compared to that, getting all high & mighty because someone uses a word in common circulation to describe you that you find offensive seems a little weak.

Realistically, I get called a wanky ginger jock bastard almost every day, because I'm scottish and have a ginger beard lol. So the fuck what? Does that mean I run up to them and go "That is OUR word!" NO! Of course not! I just call them a bunch of sassanach engercunts and get on with my day.

So, my point is this:

DO NOT EVER PRESUME THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS UNAWARE OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE A VICTIM OF PREJUDICE, INTOLERANCE, HATRED OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU FEEL SOMEHOW MAKES YOU SPECIAL.

To do otherwise is just to be a narrow-minded self-centred arrogant asshole who presumes that because they feel that they are in some way different to other folk that they are automatically persecuted. Most folk I know couldn't give a rats ass what you do in your free time, as long as you do what you're paid to do when you're meant to lol.


...seriously ticks me right the fuck off... does it show?