Give honest critique on Deviantart ...

[resiz3d]

Originally Posted by darththeo

Don't apply childish logic to the real world, it doesn't work.

I'm applying real world morality to the internet. Would you have said this face-to-face? Maybe you would have, but you would have been a jerk for doing so. Like a lot of people on the internet, you're hiding behind "I was just giving my opinion".

Originally Posted by darththeo

He bans all criticism, constructive on not. **every comment is basically "WOW THIS IS SO GOOD!" and the only "negative" are minor like "That joint looks a little weird."

Thank goodness you're here to make sure people don't get too puffed up with themselves. Good job, put them in their place!

When it comes to art, a critique does not just mean your opinion. It's like how "theory" is different to a scientist than it is to a layperson. When you take an art class you learn how to properly give and receive critiques. It's why DA built an entire critique-system for when artists actually want to be critiqued.

If you had said something like:

• This didn't have elements x, y and z I usually find in your work.
• The proportions of ABC are off

Or yes, even:

• That joint looks a little weird.

Those are all critiques. The artist may have even thanked you if they were looking to be critiqued in the first place. You're giving the artist an idea of what they can do to improve. Not just "This is no good, do better".

Was the artist thin-skinned? Yes. Were you being a jerk? Yes. Stop casting yourself as the victim here. You were trollin' and got put on ignore. Then you posted here looking for sympathy? Sounds like you're thin-skinned too.

[darththeo]

Originally Posted by resiz3d

I'm applying real world morality to the internet. Would you have said this face-to-face? Maybe you would have, but you would have been a jerk for doing so. Like a lot of people on the internet, you're hiding behind "I was just giving my opinion".

Thank goodness you're here to make sure people don't get too puffed up with themselves. Good job, put them in their place!

Holding back an opinion just because he could "hurt" someone else isn't moral, it is childish. That isn't how the real world works, at least not a place I been to. Don't confuse what you personally consider polite behavior with morality, they aren't the same thing. In fact, if I held back the comment because I thought it would bother him, I find that far more amoral than what you suggest because it shows I don't even care about his art, that is my view but I doubt you can understand that. I stated it because I thought it could help him improve or open a conversation rather than rant.

I didn't insult him, I didn't belittle his work. I stated it was "not his best." That doesn't even fall into it being bad at all. I have had teachers, bosses as well as my parents and even classmates and co-workers tell me that level of comment and often in verbatim. I have never once found it to be a jerk move in any sense of that term. If telling someone that their work wasn't there best is a being a jerk then you have a pretty low threshold for what is considered to be jerk behavior. What I did was not a jerk behavior unless you have a completely unrealistic standard which you clearly do.

And you are a hypocrite on top of everything else if you list your reason it boils down to you are a jerk because you weren't specific, even though not your best falls in the same level of your examples whether you accept that or not I don't give a rat ass.

And no, I am not looking for sympathy, but I doubt you can understand that sometimes it helps to rant because it is WTF that was an overreaction to something harmless. And a troll is something posted solely to annoy someone so lets add that to the list of things you gotten wrong in one post. If I was trolling, I wouldn't have made this topic because getting him to ignore me is the ultimate achievement for a troll as it got under that persons skin to the point to ignore me.

You have no idea why I posted this, no idea what the difference between what you find polite is vs real world morality is (btw, there is no real world morality as that implies an objective standard and there isn't one but I won't count that against you as it is a very common mistake), no idea what an internet troll is and you are a hypocrite. That is 4 errors you made.

[Red_Mage]

Most people claim to want honest critique but can't handle it when it's not what they want to hear. It's true on DA just as much as it is in any other thing people ask for criticism on. I say this now, but when I start circulating my novel amongst my friends, we'll see how I react to the critiques.

That said, I've had some (not many, but a couple) people absolutely trash my writings on DA. I had one person say nothing more than "Wow...that was the worst thing I've ever read". I didn't ban him for it. I calmly asked for any tips I could get to improve and never heard back from him. Frankly, it never bothered me all that much.

[oxdaman]

I think resize3D might be trolling you darth. The long responses that you're giving seem like comedy gold for that trolling website that I've heard about.

But yeah, you didn't say anything mean. If anything you complimented the artist. Just having a bunch of positvie comments with no feeback doesn't really help the artist. While it sounds like you didn't suggest how to make things better, it wasn't bad enough to be blocked.

Any artist who can't take a little bit of negative criticism isn't ready to be an artist on the internet IMO.