Man of Steel Review, Spoiler Free

[JBird]

Originally Posted by sodacat

Everything I've read has said that this is a bad Superman movie and an average Snyder movie. So if you enjoyed Sucker Punch then Man of Steel is the movie for you.

That's probably the best way to sell it, because it sure didn't feel like a Superman movie, to me. The first half that deals with the origin is stronger than the rest of the film. Which, then felt more like a Superman fanfic written by a 12-year old DBZ addict. Or Roland Emmerich, who probably got a boner from all the destruction Superman caused.

[qwertyas]

Thing is DC don't really cares about Superman movies. They're doing them so they don't have to give back the license to the families of the creators. There's this court ruling that say that if DC don't get a Superman movie produced within ten years from one another, the families get Superman back, or something akind to this. So WB (for people that don't know, they own DC) do everything to keep Superman, cuz it'd be a huge blow to DC if they were to lose Superman.

[JBird]

Originally Posted by qwertyas

Thing is DC don't really cares about Superman movies. They're doing them so they don't have to give back the license to the families of the creators. There's this court ruling that say that if DC don't get a Superman movie produced within ten years from one another, the families get Superman back, or something akind to this. So WB (for people that don't know, they own DC) do everything to keep Superman, cuz it'd be a huge blow to DC if they were to lose Superman.

More than likely the family will try to sell it back to DC/Warner for 50-times the amount of what Shuster and Siegel sold Superman for back in the day. Really, before all this was a thing, everyone was on good terms until some lawyer came in and made it worse.

[sodacat]

Originally Posted by JBird

More than likely the family will try to sell it back to DC/Warner for 50-times the amount of what Shuster and Siegel sold Superman for back in the day. Really, before all this was a thing, everyone was on good terms until some lawyer came in and made it worse.

Haha, please. DC's been fucking the Siegels out of their rights for as long as Superman's been in print. They had to fight just for DC to recognize them as the original creators of the character, and DC was stiffing them on their paychecks since day 1.

Also qwertyas I think you have your wires crossed. The rights to Superman are contentious, but that's over the original terms of the license Shuster and Spiegel signed, and whether DC followed them or if the contract was even binding and legal to begin with. It sounds like you got that mixed up with Sony's rights to Spider-man movies, which they have to keep making or else the movie license will revert to Marvel. That's why they keep making terrible Spider-man movies.

[JBird]

Hostile post is hostile.

Anyway, what else are they going to do with the rights? End the 75 year old money printer just to spite everyone?

[sodacat]

Maybe they could profit from their fathers' works, as copyright law was created to ensure?

[JBird]

In order to do that, they would have to get with a partner to put Superman back into comics, and then make merchandise from there. Maybe a publisher or something :P

[sodacat]

You're still dancing around the fact that they could be getting something, rather than fuck all; the latter being DC's prefered payment.

[JBird]

I'm not going to pretend to know everything there is know about what exactly is going on in the lawsuit. All I believe is that I don't think the family knows what they'll do with the rights to Superman once they get it. Multimillion dollar films and merchandise aside, the comics aren't exactly top-sellers. Very few hits and a lot of crap.

[sodacat]

Then maybe Superman would be better with alternative creative oversight?

[JBird]

Superman has already had alternate creative oversight from different writers and artists and editors for 75 years. Again, few hits and a lot of crap. And I can't speak for what Scott Snyder will be doing with him in Superman Unchained because I could never get my hands on the first issue.

[Keile]

OK just got back from seeing the movie.

The plot was paper thin and predictable, but at the same time I kinda expect that from a Superman title. The movie felt like it kinda...jumped all over the place, however. The origin story didn't bother me as much as others did but they did take too long to get into the action. If they kept the origin to simply the little flashbacks here and there when they were relevant to what was happening in the plot, it would have been fine.

Now the action was awesome. The fight between Superman and Zod really felt like the kind of fight you would see between two gods. That said there should have been MORE of this, and less Superman wondering "Should I do something?!" to every situation.

I'm willing to be generous and give this movie an overall 6/10, the fight scenes redeem a lot of the shortcomings but are not enough to hold the movie on their own. I think there is still potential in this reboot to warrant a sequal, and now that the origin is out of the way it could focus on what we want: Superman pummeling the hell out of a big baddie.