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Unread 04-10-2009   #1
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates

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As someone who's bought a few dozen of Taylor's works and as someone who's been around the net since the start, I would venture to guess that a leaked video here and there is the best 'free' advertising for their body of work.

For every person who sees one of these 'pirate' feeds, anyone who enjoys them will need to head to her site to look for more. Most of the pirate sites only have a handful of these feeds. Some people might see other fetishes on her site and be damn curious. There are those of us with means who will quickly whip out the ole Credit Card. And then there are those people who simply can't or won't because they can't mask their purchases. And yes, there's the bottom-feeding scum suckers who scurry away with free stuff like ferral squirrles. But they simply can't be helped.

But at the end of the day, a trailer can tease, but a video can show the full power of the writing, the scene, etc. I've gotten to the point where I check Taylor's site DAILY for an update and I'm pretty sure many of us do too. I'm not advocating running out and broadcasting her full videos, but I'm saying that having a few out there shouldn't be the end of the world for anyone. Because let's face it: there's a TON of other videos out there for free that I wouldn't spend the energy clicking on to download, let alone watch. Running across her videos against all the other CRAP that's out there, I'm betting that many have said "damn, production quality...effects...non-static one-shot camera...what is this place?"

And that comes from seeing some of the work. If any of us see a place that's just streaming out a large % of Taylor's library, then sure let's nail them. But a vid here and there on youtube-ish sites I believe might actually help sell her awesomeness.
We agree with the "limited sharing=advertising" notion and there are full length versions of some of our clips out there that we let go--especially when the poster puts really weird or misspelled tags on it so the views will always be somewhat limited.

DailyMotion & YouTube have the full length "Age Of Expansion" as well as Taylor's original breast expansion clip available in our own channels and we're about to release another as well.
I know some people were a bit surprised when they saw "AofE" released for free but you just explained quite well the reason why we did it.

One of the recent sharing incidents involved 13 BE videos and that is a good size % of our collection.
The other involved only 2 clips but the guy replaced our "TaylorMadeClips" intro with his own "Moviemaker-bigtits-33 Presents" and that is just fucked.

ALWAYS good to hear from you Dr! We have 6-7 BE clips in the can awaiting editing right now so keep checking in!
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates

Yeah, except those people will want more free stuff, and they have ways to get them. Plus, Taylor has put out free vids before.
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates

Hey, ya know what would make it even harder for little kids to just take a video and replace the title? If you had some kind of logo that appeared in the videos... something you could cut out and place in your productions... Like have it causally lying on a magazine or resting in the corner of a picture.. something that doesn't stick out, but signifies that its TM stuff ya? Another option is maybe you could place an object, something funny like a bag from a tailor shop that says "Taylor Made--to Fit!" on the side. Cause everyone knows that clothing ain't gonna fit anymore.
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Slow for a Saturday Night

Rick sits at the end of the bar talking at length about government conspiracies. Its slow for a Saturday night. Just before last call a lady wearing a wedding dress comes in and sits at a back table. It definitely hasn`t been her night so far...

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I've been nothing but supportive of TaylorMadeClips.com in the past. In fact, "Slow for a Saturday Night" was the 40th Taylor clip I've purchased. It was also, by far, the worst. Emphasis on high stylization is what usually set these clips apart from the rest (Giantess Zone, I'm looking at you), but in this case it just doesn't work.

Half the clip being filler is nothing new, but the nearly three minutes of drunken conspiracy theorizing that sets "Saturday Night" off is excruciating. ("Obama won't save you!") The inflation, which starts at the four and a half minute mark, is underwhelming and inferior to most of the previous productions. I won't comment on the "hardcore" sex scene (pictured in the last screenshot, above) beyond saying that the breast props just didn't do it for me.

Please don't take my criticism as so much bitching and moaning. I do feel like I just wasted nine bucks, but that's not why I'm giving this clip such a negative review. Rather, I feel that TaylorMadeClips should keep up its tradition of quality and growth (no pun intended.)

Lastly, a plea from someone who does film sound and editing professionally: invest in a decent microphone. Sound recorded from the camcorder can be identified by the viewer as such, destroying their suspension of disbelief. Sound recorded from a boom mike, on the other hand, can significantly boost the professional feel of a production.
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I've been nothing but supportive of TaylorMadeClips.com in the past. In fact, "Slow for a Saturday Night" was the 40th Taylor clip I've purchased. It was also, by far, the worst. Emphasis on high stylization is what usually set these clips apart from the rest (Giantess Zone, I'm looking at you), but in this case it just doesn't work.

Half the clip being filler is nothing new, but the nearly three minutes of drunken conspiracy theorizing that sets "Saturday Night" off is excruciating. ("Obama won't save you!") The inflation, which starts at the four and a half minute mark, is underwhelming and inferior to most of the previous productions. I won't comment on the "hardcore" sex scene (pictured in the last screenshot, above) beyond saying that the breast props just didn't do it for me.

Please don't take my criticism as so much bitching and moaning. I do feel like I just wasted nine bucks, but that's not why I'm giving this clip such a negative review. Rather, I feel that TaylorMadeClips should keep up its tradition of quality and growth (no pun intended.)

Lastly, a plea from someone who does film sound and editing professionally: invest in a decent microphone. Sound recorded from the camcorder can be identified by the viewer as such, destroying their suspension of disbelief. Sound recorded from a boom mike, on the other hand, can significantly boost the professional feel of a production.

We took a chance. It took us hours and hours more to shoot and hundreds and hundreds of extra dollars to get it edited and reedited. It is becoming obvious to me that the financially sound thing to do is get a formula and repeat it over and over and over. I guess you are saying we should not be taking any more chances. Point taken. Thank you for your support.
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Here are some pictures of a clip I just shot with Daphne that will be out soon.
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We took a chance. It took us hours and hours more to shoot and hundreds and hundreds of extra dollars to get it edited and reedited. It is becoming obvious to me that the financially sound thing to do is get a formula and repeat it over and over and over. I guess you are saying we should not be taking any more chances. Point taken. Thank you for your support.
I was trying to say that, for the most part, what really puts you above content producers like Giantess Zone is that you *don't* just follow the same formula every time. However, in this case, the "chance" you took resulted in a huge stumble backward, in my humble opinion. My goal in criticizing "Saturday Night" was simply to get that point across, so that future productions can benefit from past mistakes.

As far as repeating the same formula over and over again, well... Pornography, and that's what this ultimately is, gets stale. It's a strange phenomenon that men don't find the same thing arousing after repeated viewings. A certain degree of variation (or escalation) is required to keep things fresh. Giantess Zone (sorry to pick on them) uses the exact same situations and effects with different actresses, and it suffers as a consequence.

One method, which you tend to employ well, is the use of various styles and genres. Despite my unfavorable review of your latest clip, I for one believe that pulpy noir porn with sci fi undertones is both doable and a Very Good Idea (tm). Please, keep moving forward with that sort of experimentation.

What's most important in these clips-- and I think I can speak for a lot of people here --is a degree of believability, to the point where the viewer can suspend disbelief. If we believe the breasts (or woman) are really growing in the context of the video, we'll come back for more. This means no perfectly spherical, weightless breasts.

Yes, I realize there's a large market for Breast Inflation, but there's also an even larger market for realistic Breast Expansion. A few people have suggested investing in Mastasia-type prostheses, and I must add my voice to theirs. The higher quality the fakes, the less the repeat-buyer will mind when they're reused. Basically, you can get more mileage out of better boobs. Perhaps try several stages and sizes (and full motion morphs between them, if it's not too much to ask?)

Anyway... just trying help! The new Daphne clip looks good so far and you know I'll definitely buy it.

PS: If you ever need another editor to pay "hundreds and hundreds of extra dollars", I hope you'll keep me in mind.

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Unread 05-10-2009   #9
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates

It was also, by far, the worst.
...but in this case it just doesn't work.
Half the clip being filler is nothing new...
...is excruciating.
...is underwhelming and inferior to most of the previous productions.
...the breast props just didn't do it for me.
I do feel like I just wasted nine bucks...
...invest in a decent microphone.
...destroying their suspension of disbelief.



You know criticism as bad and as non-subjective sounding as that can knock quite a large percentage off the sales of a clip.

But we deserve it. We obviously just "mailed it in" on this one hoping to sneak one by based on reputation but you were sharp and you caught us in the act.
You let *everyone* know they shouldn't waste their money on this garbage and that is the best way to keep producers like us in line.
I am glad that the people who told us they love this clip were lucky and they bought it before they read the warning that it was just a waste of money.

In other fetishes inferior clips won't sell as much as the good ones because they don't get as many positive "calls to action"!
When a bunch of people say... "Great Clip!" "My Favorite" "Holy Shit" "Its a must have!" that makes people go and get it themselves but when the response is quieter and limited more to people who had specific kinks addressed by the clip..."I have conspiracy theory fetish! Thanks!" then not so many will be getting that clip.

Believe it or not but in any other fetish people never post after a producer's "release" announcement and put up a "I just wasted nine bucks..." type of review about the clip they are trying to sell and why would anyone do that with a producer they think works hard and makes good content?

However, in this case, the "chance" you took resulted in a huge stumble backward, in my humble opinion. My goal in criticizing "Saturday Night" was simply to get that point across, so that future productions can benefit from past mistakes.

WoW!

It almost seems like you think we believe we made our best clip yet.

90% of the footage we shot never made it into the clip.
Things went wrong and things didn't work as we thought but that is true half of the time we shoot BE.
Girls or agencies use dated pictures or ones that are airburshed to all hell. Sometimes there is a pretty big difference between what you expect the model to look like and what she actually does. Sometimes models arrive somewhat "distracted" I guess is a good way to put it. Even though they told us how terrific they are with dialog they actually can't "act" without taking long dullardly stares right at the camera after each line.

Its things like this(and many others) that make a decent BE clip very difficult to do.

At that point just throwing in the towel and making an guaranteed awfully awkward BE clip would have been a "huge stumble backward" because we just said "fuck it".

Instead we tried to balance out the the model's weak points and somehow make a memorable and unique clip out of it by playing towards her positives(hardcore).

Unfortunately there were many more things waiting to go wrong for us.
We didn't succeed but we didn't fail either.


bad dialouge
yet another need to fast forward through dumb opening
no build up into the BE aka almost insta
when it does barely any
and don't let the pictures fool you no she doesn't go bottomless
PS sfx are good but when theres no actual movement and just sfx that doesn't count as BE


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From this review I don't get the feeling that you think the clip is nearly as "good" as you said it was 12 hours before in our forum.

This post comes only an hour or so after you realized your permissions were changed at our forum. You obviously got angry and you took my advice from a couple weeks ago and came here to over-criticize fetish porn.
Maybe you should have waited for whatever clip we released next and trashed that one so you wouldn't so obviously contradict yourself and undermine the believability of your entire rant.


Candide & netripper(n3tr111p)---Both you guys are great customers of ours and it sucks that we obliviously disagree on the merit of highly negative rants posted in retort to a "new release announcement".

But I'm certainly in the wrong forum to even try to be make that argument. haha
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Unread 05-10-2009   #10
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates

your dead on i was upset

I learned my lesson from last time and limited my criticism to a simple

lose the cheesy intro

it was a good clip and didn't kill my interest in buying future clips

but that still was too much i guess and so I came here and spoke up even on the littlest things that could of been done better

that Saturday Night deal was painful and would be the bookend for the bad section of BE but everything else so far including the recent BELLA vid are alright and should be bought

PS true I stay in the shadows do not contribute post wise but I have spent plenty towards all the clip providers/comic/drawing/and monthly fee sites and gave everyone a chance, just lookin for some good BE and TAYLOR is by far the best shot at it we all have
just was upset and decided to be blunt

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Unread 05-03-2009   #11
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates

Been a fan of Daphne Rosen the last several years, and I really enjoyed the last BE clip she did. I look forward to this clip, to say the least.
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Unread 05-04-2009   #12
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Oh awsome, I loved the last Daphne clip. It's still one of my favorites!

Also, Taylor if you see this, I'm having trouble getting permition to post in your forums. I activated my account with email, ect, and I can log in, but not post or reply, ect. It said something about waiting for approval from mods.

I pm'ed you there but I'm not sure it went through given the status of my account.

Oh...I just checked now and my account doesn't exist at all. I guess I'll try to make a new one. I don't know how else to contact you so I figured this might be the best place. I've got a few ideas that I've always wanted to throw around would love to get feedback on them. I'll try to make a new account soon.
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