Missa - TF

[Kantomaster1111]

Originally Posted by missa

By the way, can you do the next scene more erotic? I want "scary sexy..?" lol!

Is this how one directs porn?

[baxter1327]

Originally Posted by missa

I do not know about hiring in the future YET! Right now she is selling at the same rate that I sell my videos. I thought that hiring a new girl, especially one as hot as her, would give me double the sales, but that is proving to be not true. I had to travel, hotel, buy eye contacts for her, her hourly wage. And then some other road bumps are a bit of a bummer. The stress of wondering, will I break even.. will I make a profit...? The stress is tremendous! Please allow me a couple of months to figure out if this venture was worth it. If I was able to make a profit over what I have spent out. Right now.. it could be too early to tell.

I'm curious as to how you figured hiring another girl might double your sales. Certainly I'm not questioning your business savvy, just trying to understand it. Was it the idea of "double the pleasure double the business", the following/fans that she might already have adding to your sales, that you think she's maybe twice as hot as you, or some other pattern you have noticed from other sellers?

All I can tell you is that from my perspective, the simple addition of another girl to your studio really doesn't matter to me one way or the other insofar as I won't be compelled to buy/not buy just on that basis. HOW she is woven into the storyline and how she acts do become factors once she's there though.

For instance, I liked SheWolf V, but it certainly didn't seem to have the dialog or emotional depth (funny talking about dialog and depth in porn I guess eh?) that your other solo SheWolfs did. I imagine a lot of that had to do with what was commissioned, and maybe you and the other girl still finding a comfort zone in regard to that stuff; but the end result, IMO, fell a little flat compared to the others. (...don't get me wrong, it's still better than most anything else offered).

What I'm saying is, SW V won't stop me from buying others, but so far, I still prefer your solo stuff. Partly because I like your acting, partly because I find you more attractive, and partly because maybe the two woman act wasn't utilized to a great extent (you were absent for most of it, which pretty much made it a non-Missa vid- in front of the camera anyway).

Of course all of that is just my view of it. I'm sure other fans will have different views on the situation. In any case no doubt you'll find your way through this "test phase" as best you can. Certainly you have lots of friends/fans here who will stay with you through it all.


PS
Don't take my critique as any sort of knock against the new girl. She is indeed very attractive and did well with what she had to do. :-)

[missa]

Originally Posted by baxter1327

I'm curious as to how you figured hiring another girl might double your sales.

Baxter, it reminds me back to my (not so distant) exotic dancing days. As an exotic dancer, many men feel compelled to tell you why they will not buy a private dance with you. The number one reason is looks: "Sweetheart, I'm sorry, I prefer black girls/blondes/thin/thick/small tits/large tits." By the way, I hate being called 'sweetheart' by strangers, more than I hate having my body picked apart as I stand before a stranger, nearly naked. lol!

It was my thought that I would release my new video, and I would get new guys to buy into her look, that maybe didn't love my look. My biggest hurdle with becoming successful is that I only have regular customers. It is ALSO my biggest pride. Just imagining that you (my customers) enjoy me so well, that they come back for more makes me so happy.

The question now lies within advertising. Have I reached out to all the men who are into Wolfing out? I know I have exhausted all avenues of the internet that will have me. Some message boards and sites don't allow me because of my erotic content, and others I don't want to touch because I don't want the type of customers who will share/steal my clips, thus making them useless (and force me away from my favorite filming fetishes).

It's TRUE that the law of diminishing returns could be cutting down my sales. But I am fairly new to vampire fetish, and she sold just as well as myself in that category. I also noticed when I put up her video, my recent videos (of me only) chopped down to 1 or zero sales. Pretty interesting.. same as when I, myself, put up a kick ass clip like She Wolf, or one of my beloved Giantess vids. I think that hiring a new girl will give me the same result as having me in the video.

So far (and it is too early to come to a conclusion yet). YOU GUYS are not like my strip club customers. You like what you like, and a new girl is not that much of a thrill. Maybe there are a few who disagree.. but for the most part. I thought you'd be pissing (or cumming lol) in your pants seeing that new girl pop up in my animated gif. She's super petite, thin, baby doll face, she has a super sweet look that I have seen sell big in strip clubs.

I am loving reading the comments about my acting ability. Oh, am I better, best? Gosh! Before I get a big head, I have to remember, of course I am better.. it's my livelihood. You see me bark like a dog while getting fucked from behind? I've laid eggs, explicit shots of my privates. I've run face first into walls. AND I am a super conservative woman. I'm modest with my body, and careful with presenting myself as a lady in public.. BUT I lay it all out there because it's 'my' livelihood. It's in my best interest to give you better than what you have ever seen before, so you come back.

Still think she was pretty good, her ability was impressive.. She listened to my direction (which can be too enthusiastic, I'll literally demonstrate with my body), and she gave me her all, she even allowed me to take more shots of the same scene, which is physically and mentally taxing.

She's the first girl I showed to you but not the first I've hired. I had a brunette that was so gorgeous everyone would have fucking died: tan, sparkly eyes, tall, a figure to die for, thick and long chocolate brown hair. I found her in the strip club, a stunning tall model-like woman. She agreed to work with me, although she was nervous about being on the internet.

Her footage was totally unusable. She couldn't even spit back one or two lines when I fed them to her: probably drunk off her mind. I spent 5 hours with her, hoping I could get SOME sort of usable footage with her. I then scrapped my fantasy work, and tried way easier work for her to do, practically mindless, domination work. The type of domination work you see girls do, "look at my body, this is what you can never have.." I was literally sweating while filming her, seeing my hard earned money fly out the door with all of her giggles, and "lemme try again.. sorry."

The point is this: my TF, GTS, type work is difficult work. Not everyone can do it. It can also be painful to deal with the prosthetic, nails, holding insane arched poses until I set up the next transition shot. Clothes ripping? Forget about it! It feels like getting Indian burned on your torso, thighs, breasts, whenever I do a ripping scene, I have welts for an entire day afterwards (sometimes 2), no matter how careful I shave the fabric. Now guys, when you take all of these complications in mind, I think my blonde She Wolf did pretty well. I couldn't ask her for any more. I believe she was eager to please me, and did the best she could (considering the end video is mine).

I have had a few comments asking if I can look to girls who are genuinely "into it." Guys, come on now! Most young, sexy women are NOT into werewolves, comics, transformation and shit. They're into dancing at night clubs, taking selfies, talking about boys, facebook, their college stuffs, shopping, hair, make-up, that sort of thing. Sure there COULD be a hot girl who is into this sort of TF thing, but not likely. The few I have seen who pride themselves as geeks, do so because they like to play video games, and have a sexy pair of black rim glasses to wear in their selfies. I just have to hope that hot girls I hire will try their best for me. Listen to my direction, not be drunk or high, try to imitate what I want them to give me, and hope they surprise me with something new that actually works with my video direction.

There it is! Those are my thoughts. Now, keep in mind, I can't start kicking myself just yet. Most of my sales come within the first three days of a video's release, but I am still cooking up some promotion ideas to see if I can gain new customers. I'm also moving on, moving forward, to try to catch up on my customs before my promised due date. Work, work.. but then I am only happy when I am busy.

I want new girls to work for me more than anyone! I want to bow out of this industry within 2-3 more years, then stay in the game by hiring new girls. This way I could have a more quiet, less public life. I want to give you bruenttes, blondes, different races, whatever-- as long as they are hot and talented. Now we wait and see. Bear with me!

[ZodiacX]

Hey Missa, I plopped a link to your video over in the VampYou forums, and at least a couple of people have expressed intrest in the vampire turning one. I suspect the site owner may be intrested in contacting you for a video possibly, he's been looking to hire some people for awhile. I hope you dont mind. ^^

[Greebrun]

Originally Posted by missa

The point is this: my TF, GTS, type work is difficult work. Not everyone can do it. It can also be painful to deal with the prosthetic, nails, holding insane arched poses until I set up the next transition shot. Clothes ripping? Forget about it! It feels like getting Indian burned on your torso, thighs, breasts, whenever I do a ripping scene, I have welts for an entire day afterwards (sometimes 2), no matter how careful I shave the fabric. Now guys, when you take all of these complications in mind, I think my blonde She Wolf did pretty well. I couldn't ask her for any more. I believe she was eager to please me, and did the best she could (considering the end video is mine).

So the fantasy and the reality of transformation are a little more closer together than we thought?

[gladewalker]

That's why I keep coming back, Missa.
That honest candor and forthright attitude =-)
A lot of folks don't appreciate what it takes on the other side of the camera to get it done. I can see a huge difference between those who ENJOY the work and those going through the motions (with varying levels of ability.)

There are a select few who are both fans of the community as well as artists. I appreciate it. Glad to have you here.

Originally Posted by missa

Baxter, it reminds me back to my (not so distant) exotic dancing days. As an exotic dancer, many men feel compelled to tell you why they will not buy a private dance with you. The number one reason is looks: "Sweetheart, I'm sorry, I prefer black girls/blondes/thin/thick/small tits/large tits." By the way, I hate being called 'sweetheart' by strangers, more than I hate having my body picked apart as I stand before a stranger, nearly naked. lol!

It was my thought that I would release my new video, and I would get new guys to buy into her look, that maybe didn't love my look. My biggest hurdle with becoming successful is that I only have regular customers. It is ALSO my biggest pride. Just imagining that you (my customers) enjoy me so well, that they come back for more makes me so happy.

The question now lies within advertising. Have I reached out to all the men who are into Wolfing out? I know I have exhausted all avenues of the internet that will have me. Some message boards and sites don't allow me because of my erotic content, and others I don't want to touch because I don't want the type of customers who will share/steal my clips, thus making them useless (and force me away from my favorite filming fetishes).

It's TRUE that the law of diminishing returns could be cutting down my sales. But I am fairly new to vampire fetish, and she sold just as well as myself in that category. I also noticed when I put up her video, my recent videos (of me only) chopped down to 1 or zero sales. Pretty interesting.. same as when I, myself, put up a kick ass clip like She Wolf, or one of my beloved Giantess vids. I think that hiring a new girl will give me the same result as having me in the video.

So far (and it is too early to come to a conclusion yet). YOU GUYS are not like my strip club customers. You like what you like, and a new girl is not that much of a thrill. Maybe there are a few who disagree.. but for the most part. I thought you'd be pissing (or cumming lol) in your pants seeing that new girl pop up in my animated gif. She's super petite, thin, baby doll face, she has a super sweet look that I have seen sell big in strip clubs.

I am loving reading the comments about my acting ability. Oh, am I better, best? Gosh! Before I get a big head, I have to remember, of course I am better.. it's my livelihood. You see me bark like a dog while getting fucked from behind? I've laid eggs, explicit shots of my privates. I've run face first into walls. AND I am a super conservative woman. I'm modest with my body, and careful with presenting myself as a lady in public.. BUT I lay it all out there because it's 'my' livelihood. It's in my best interest to give you better than what you have ever seen before, so you come back.

Still think she was pretty good, her ability was impressive.. She listened to my direction (which can be too enthusiastic, I'll literally demonstrate with my body), and she gave me her all, she even allowed me to take more shots of the same scene, which is physically and mentally taxing.

She's the first girl I showed to you but not the first I've hired. I had a brunette that was so gorgeous everyone would have fucking died: tan, sparkly eyes, tall, a figure to die for, thick and long chocolate brown hair. I found her in the strip club, a stunning tall model-like woman. She agreed to work with me, although she was nervous about being on the internet.

Her footage was totally unusable. She couldn't even spit back one or two lines when I fed them to her: probably drunk off her mind. I spent 5 hours with her, hoping I could get SOME sort of usable footage with her. I then scrapped my fantasy work, and tried way easier work for her to do, practically mindless, domination work. The type of domination work you see girls do, "look at my body, this is what you can never have.." I was literally sweating while filming her, seeing my hard earned money fly out the door with all of her giggles, and "lemme try again.. sorry."

The point is this: my TF, GTS, type work is difficult work. Not everyone can do it. It can also be painful to deal with the prosthetic, nails, holding insane arched poses until I set up the next transition shot. Clothes ripping? Forget about it! It feels like getting Indian burned on your torso, thighs, breasts, whenever I do a ripping scene, I have welts for an entire day afterwards (sometimes 2), no matter how careful I shave the fabric. Now guys, when you take all of these complications in mind, I think my blonde She Wolf did pretty well. I couldn't ask her for any more. I believe she was eager to please me, and did the best she could (considering the end video is mine).

I have had a few comments asking if I can look to girls who are genuinely "into it." Guys, come on now! Most young, sexy women are NOT into werewolves, comics, transformation and shit. They're into dancing at night clubs, taking selfies, talking about boys, facebook, their college stuffs, shopping, hair, make-up, that sort of thing. Sure there COULD be a hot girl who is into this sort of TF thing, but not likely. The few I have seen who pride themselves as geeks, do so because they like to play video games, and have a sexy pair of black rim glasses to wear in their selfies. I just have to hope that hot girls I hire will try their best for me. Listen to my direction, not be drunk or high, try to imitate what I want them to give me, and hope they surprise me with something new that actually works with my video direction.

There it is! Those are my thoughts. Now, keep in mind, I can't start kicking myself just yet. Most of my sales come within the first three days of a video's release, but I am still cooking up some promotion ideas to see if I can gain new customers. I'm also moving on, moving forward, to try to catch up on my customs before my promised due date. Work, work.. but then I am only happy when I am busy.

I want new girls to work for me more than anyone! I want to bow out of this industry within 2-3 more years, then stay in the game by hiring new girls. This way I could have a more quiet, less public life. I want to give you bruenttes, blondes, different races, whatever-- as long as they are hot and talented. Now we wait and see. Bear with me!

[Anahki]

Well, I really agree with what baxter has said. From my point of view, anyway, adding something new like a new performer would have helped to raise sales. But there are some other things to consider: it is not the first (the fifth! wow!) video about werewolves, so it is not new (the first one benefitted greatly for that, wasn't it number 1?), and also some of your "hardcore" fans would prefer a video with you as the main character instead too. And finally, probably you have reached to most of the TF community, so from now on it would be complicated to expand your business in that direction (well, at least we are a loyal audience , and I'll still keep on buying your videos like crazed).

But, as I previously said, I really loved the video, and also love when you add something new to the show, being that new locations, new FX, or even a new performer.

[Wbfoot]

A different girl (by the way - very HAWT ) brings another dialect to the transformation process. I think this is a very good thing, content-wise, for the community.

[missa]

please link to your thread and your post about my vid?

Thanks Zodiac

[The_Nameless_One]

Thank you for the great explanation Missa.

[dataloss]

Perhaps you could put some of your preview stills and some animated gifs on deviantART, I'm sure the process fans there would support you and spread and fav the love. Just be mindful of their content policies I got burned once or twice for being too explicit. Maybe you could try some sort of Video Podcast (You could even try Youtube/Vimeo/Daily Motion but you would really have to leave things to the imagination due to their rules) creating a weekly or monthly 3 to 5 min storyline and use it to push people to your content for sale. Even a behind the scenes VLOG would be of interest to some here I guess?

One of the problems with the transformation community is it is really is not a mainstream fetish or interest it certainly falls off the adult content radar. Years ago all that existed was a few Yahoo Groups and a couple of websites. Out of all the people that do Video work you have tried the hardest and done wonders with a limited budget and a paying sometimes fickle audience who you may never please entirely but hell do what your comfortable doing/pays the bills as those that complain/freeload or never pleased can vote with their wallets as you certainly don't gouge us for your work.

[baxter1327]

Originally Posted by dataloss

...One of the problems with the transformation community is it is really is not a mainstream fetish or interest it certainly falls off the adult content radar.

Actually that could work to her advantage when it comes to advertising outside of normal porn/fetish channels. As a good portion of this fetish isn't what one would usually define as "pornographic" , Deviantart, youtube, dailymotion and other more mainstream options could be possible. She could certainly get across the point of what she does (regarding TF anyway) without going Xrated.

I may get some abuse for bringing this up because I know they have their share of critics and detractors, but Acertown's SheHulk Series, and more recently Exiram's WereCreatures, are examples of blatant TF fetishism that manage to reside in more traditional corners of the web: Blogspot, Youtube, Vimeo, Facebook, etc... Hell, sometimes I wonder if Acertown's girls actually know what they're involved in- as his series' aren't very sexual in any traditional sense, although I'd bet the VAST majority of his followers are TF fetishists (reflected by some of his creepier Facebook followers' comments).
Whatever the case, despite not being in English, and having mediocre and recycled TF effects, hes managed to keep things going for...what? three years now? And he says he's starting a SheWolf series in April so there ya go. Business can't be too bad (albeit he's operating out of Mexico so maybe his overhead isn't what Missa's would be).

Certainly there's room in the TF market for Missa whether it be "officially" porn or not. She obviously knows what's wanted and how to pull it off (pardon the pun), and the quality of her productions is superior in many ways, so the potenital is definitely there.

Of course she's driving her own bus and will take it down the road of her choice (with all of us happily aboard no matter the destination), but I know I'm not alone when I say I wish someone with her kinds of skills would start up a similar Acertown endeavor.