Giantess Zone Growth & Info Thread

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by Volfsbayne

Bud & RacerX,

Would you two just stop bickering and fighting against each other, especially in an inappropriate forum section. I'm not Lorekeep, I'm not a Mod, just a supporter and it doesn't take a macho to step in and play peacekeeper. Now here is a POV from outside the box so I suggest you two talented men stop arguing and here me out.

Yeah yeah, competition drives commerce and profits higher, blah blah blah. But it seems to be tearing you two apart, and I don't care who started it and why. Now up to this point I have supported BudapestSwopeJr by purchasing all of his growth-related clips and offering plenty of words for support. I am still curious about your clips too RacerX, I just haven't seen but 1 or 2 trailers for yours so far. That may sound lame, but ask around and I'm sure you two will find out just how effective trailers can be. I'm not saying RacerX go and produce adequate trailers for your clips, not my call. I'm not saying that BudapestSwopeJr should shut up and quit complaining or that you are absolutely right in your complaints. The most constructive and possibly the more profitting solution would be to join forces and work together.

Here, I'll provide a real-life example. Take Ryan Wieber and Michael "Dorkman" Scott who produced the RvD youtube phenomenon when at first they worked separately but chose to combine their efforts. Later they teamed up again to produce RvD2, just check out this wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Wieber.

At least try and stop arguing with each other, even if one of you finds it much easier than the other to produce quality growth clips. It doesn't solve anything and sure isn't constructive. I'm not telling anyone what to do or for you two to work together, just trying to play mediator and offer some help.

I agree and when I am talked about in the flames forum or on other threads I make no response but I think I should be able to make some response when it is in this thread. I think my responses were pretty tame here in comparison.

as far as your suggestion to work together I would do that in a second as I would be the first one to sign a peace a treaty and work together or at least move on and just tolerate each other. but I do not see that happening as Bud is pretty pissed at me.

[baxter1327]

aaaanyways.

I'm going to pretend that those last few posts didn't happen, and bring this thread back to its intended purpose:

RacerX:

Just what are your future plans for your movies? I mean as far as set-up. B/C to be honest, personally, I'm about done with this current "situation". I've purchased lots of your movies before, but even as bangin' as Alexia is, I'm thinking I'll skip the current one, since I'm nearly 100% sure I've already seen it before--and better played at that (we all have to admit, as hot as Alexia is, she's not the best at improv, or lines, or however you all do it).

Here's a couple thoughts I've had:

1. the button popping blouse thing-- working great! You've got the FRONT of the shirt worked out well (the angle used in kbella's gd-36- excellent). BUT your back ripping shots-- what's up with all those holes? One rip, down the middle, that's all you need. Those other holes just take away from the realism.

2. I do appreciate the recent addition of the pants too. Keep working on that.

--as far as wardrobe-- maybe it'd save ya some money if you took the occasional trip to GoodWill or the Salvation Army and places like that.

3. As far as story line and set-up. ...Ever think of using your actresses toward their strong points? I mean it's obvious some of the girls are better at acting mad/upset and others are better at acting turned on, etc... Maybe have that lead your storyline, instead of the other way around. In addition to a better quality product, it would do us ALL a favor of lending some sense of variance to the nature of your movies, instead of getting the same thing every week with a different chick. I understand that the logistics of your business and schedule may not lend itself to a lot of variation from week to week...but maybe you should work on that, as it would keep people from getting bored with your stuff.

3. And this is my own personal thing here, so I realize I'm only speaking for myself and maybe a handfull of others when I say: I'm a growth fan, but not necessarily a giantess fan. I mean, yes, obviously a girl has to get to some level of giantess if she's gonna grow, but I don't need the sitting on the tiny bed or stomping around the city stuff. Once she's 7-9ft or whatever--good enough for me. As a result, I usually only watch the first half your movies, even though I'm paying for all of it. Here's my observation on that: it's called "growthdreams"- and from what I understand, it's just one of many giantess related sites within Media Impact. As far as I'm concerned, growthdreams should be the growth-- if people want something beyond that, they can visit one of your other sites.

Thanks.

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by baxter1327

1. the button popping blouse thing-- working great! You've got the FRONT of the shirt worked out well (the angle used in kbella's gd-36- excellent). BUT your back ripping shots-- what's up with all those holes? One rip, down the middle, that's all you need. Those other holes just take away from the realism.

Ah, So one rip down the middle. You will see that in about three clips from now as I have three more I shot.

Originally Posted by baxter1327

2. I do appreciate the recent addition of the pants too. Keep working on that.

Thanks

Originally Posted by baxter1327

3. As far as story line and set-up. ...Ever think of using your actresses toward their strong points? I mean it's obvious some of the girls are better at acting mad/upset and others are better at acting turned on, etc... Maybe have that lead your storyline, instead of the other way around. In addition to a better quality product, it would do us ALL a favor of lending some sense of variance to the nature of your movies, instead of getting the same thing every week with a different chick. I understand that the logistics of your business and schedule may not lend itself to a lot of variation from week to week...but maybe you should work on that, as it would keep people from getting bored with your stuff.

I see what you mean. The idea is not that people need to buy every clip. I make a scenario I think people will like then run different girls through it so fans of Kbella will buy that one and fans of Tara will buy the other etc. A few will buy all but I'm not expecting that at all.

as for adjusting to actresses I try to do that like with Kbella she is best at angry so it usually goes that way and others are great at the Aroused style and then a few actually have acting skills that can go beyond that.

Originally Posted by baxter1327

3. And this is my own personal thing here, so I realize I'm only speaking for myself and maybe a handfull of others when I say: I'm a growth fan, but not necessarily a giantess fan. I mean, yes, obviously a girl has to get to some level of giantess if she's gonna grow, but I don't need the sitting on the tiny bed or stomping around the city stuff. Once she's 7-9ft or whatever--good enough for me. As a result, I usually only watch the first half your movies, even though I'm paying for all of it. Here's my observation on that: it's called "growthdreams"- and from what I understand, it's just one of many giantess related sites within Media Impact. As far as I'm concerned, growthdreams should be the growth-- if people want something beyond that, they can visit one of your other sites.

I have been thinking of this allot and have a few ideas for a site that focuses on the process scenes only ripping busting etc.

How about a clip of just nylon ripping and another clip may have the girl busting out of her shirts etc. Another clip may have only shoe bursting.

And other clips will have a mix of these things. I realize most of the issues I get from allot you guys stems from the Giantess nature of my clips as to my surprise allot of you just want to see the process and do not care much of the result.

We will be adding a small kitchen we built to the mix of Our of Room series but as your post reads you probably do not care about that.

I want to do a Girl growing in the classroom so we will have normal size classroom and girl in detention and she grows with a pretty long process and we end with tiny classroom and bust out but nix the Giantess Ending and focus on levels of process in both normal and small sized classroom.


We will be making some changes again soon as we move out of my basement and finally open our studio next month. I narrowed it down to a few locations and am pretty excited to make videos were I do not have to stop when my dogs are barking.

[Karma666]

As an aside Gary, it would seem to make more sense to have ladies bursting and ripping out of their whole outfits rather than just one article of clothing. Unless it is a specific growth process like Breast Expansion. Then, I can see the lady bursting out of her blouse (and hopefully her bra) only. Just a thought.

[kuenbu]

Okay. Stand by, because your kuenbu got some jokes.
I bout Alexia's Out if room clip and it was well put together. I think too much was spent on the nylon thing but other than that, no complaints. I agree with baxter and that comment about one rip down the middle"? The extra holes on the side? Nix that! Overall great clip. Alexia is hot.

As much as I do like Tara, Alexia and KBella, you would really make my day if you got a latin girl or a black girl. Hook that up!

Now...I gotta hit you on this Gary.
That GD-55 that was originally unreleased? That janky shit should have stayed on the shelf. Did ya'll even try? That chick couldn't act her way out of a Nestle Quik commercial. And what was up with all the moaning and strange sounds she was making. Yikes! And as far as the effects. Very subpar. We have all seen better. It seems like every one just phoned it in and said fuck it. You knew it was a bad video. That is why you shelved it right? That should have stayed locked away.
Aaaaaannnnd done.

Waiting on the next clip.

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by kuenbu

Okay. Stand by, because your kuenbu got some jokes.
I bout Alexia's Out if room clip and it was well put together. I think too much was spent on the nylon thing but other than that, no complaints. I agree with baxter and that comment about one rip down the middle"? The extra holes on the side? Nix that! Overall great clip. Alexia is hot.

As much as I do like Tara, Alexia and KBella, you would really make my day if you got a latin girl or a black girl. Hook that up!

Now...I gotta hit you on this Gary.
That GD-55 that was originally unreleased? That janky shit should have stayed on the shelf. Did ya'll even try? That chick couldn't act her way out of a Nestle Quik commercial. And what was up with all the moaning and strange sounds she was making. Yikes! And as far as the effects. Very subpar. We have all seen better. It seems like every one just phoned it in and said fuck it. You knew it was a bad video. That is why you shelved it right? That should have stayed locked away.
Aaaaaannnnd done.

Waiting on the next clip.

You are probably right but I did make it clear in bold that it was not as good as usual. But as far as the Girl in it. Violetta is really well liked and problems with the acting is probably my fault as like I said it had Tech problems throughout but some of the Giantess fans knew I had it shot and asked me to release it anyway.

I am really trying, I had a black girl booked but she was and call no show. I will keep on trying but I really like to only shoot with fetish girls and their is not many black or Latin girls who do this kind of work. I am a big fan of Latin girls myself. I will get a these done I promise.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by Karma666

As an aside Gary, it would seem to make more sense to have ladies bursting and ripping out of their whole outfits rather than just one article of clothing. Unless it is a specific growth process like Breast Expansion. Then, I can see the lady bursting out of her blouse (and hopefully her bra) only. Just a thought.

Or if you are against full on toplessness perhaps a semi see through bra for the girls to wear?

[BudapestSwopeJr]

I want to end this on my side because it wastes my time even though I have managed to get the amount of effort you put into your clips up slightly and your prices and padded running times reduced quite a bit I'd say. Even the folk who think I'm a *complete* asshole gotta give me a little bit of credit for that. Your time thinking about what I am saying I consider TIME WELL SPENT actually and its certainly not keeping you from working on your clips to make them better.

So here's my last *bump* for those who can only communicate in terms of marketing and profitiability.

Emotional? Well I care about what I make and Taylor does as well. We both care about what our customers think about our product and about us since fetish clip making can be very personal. We understand that many members of fetish communities have a, as Bozo said it, "WHY ARE WE SUCH FREAKS????", mindset and us coming into their forum and trying to hawk our shit can understandably get met with annoyance. Since we are outsiders we try earn our place through a give and take relationship where people learn to trust us.

Before i posted in your thread in January you and I had never exchanged as much as a PM or email. You and Taylor had a relatively frequent PM relationship at GiantessCity since November and out of those PMs came our femdomgiantess store and after seeing the numbers I then talked to a few people, looked some stuff up and read up on your production history and realized you "didn't give a shit" AND you were banking big bucks anyway. Fine.
Its not like we haven't run into that before in the greed and bullshit ridden internet fetish world.

Then came the "What can I do to improve my growth clips?" threads and after your first "new" growth clip came two emails to me with same message "I just got Gary's new growth clip. He copied *a lot* from your clips".
There were lots of suggestions from members in your "what can I..." threads that weren't in the clip but almost all the ones that were you could find in ours.
Taylor saw the replicated shots and even the stocking rips which Taylor told you how we did in Pms over at GiantessCity--after you asked her btw.
Your 5 month long friendly relationship with Taylor ended with a quick and condescending reply to her lengthy and emotional message about how she felt regarding your clip.

So let me come full circle to an earlier paragraph so I can tie this all together for you. You "have the fetish" so members of the community tend to trust and be drawn to that fact. You make *insane* gobs and gobs of money. You hardly reinvest ANYTHING to try and make something people could REALLY DIG BUYING. You don't even try which is really, really sad.
If you cared AT ALL about your own productions or actually spent just *a little* of the river of cash you bring in you could have been the greatest fucking asset to YOUR community and the sky would be the limit on the level of AMAZING you could be producing. Instead you squandered 10+ years never improving above marginal changes that have come about to maximize your profit with the least amount of effort and cost.

You have had the ability to make a lot of dreams come true but instead you have made a lot of people have to "dream harder" just to make your clips seem real on any level.

The low budget appearance of your clips is readily turned into a built in excuse that people throw out when your clips are criticized. You make a buttload selling your clips so that "low budget look" is repeated and used by you as a marketing strategy. Smart business decision but...
People who have supported you with their hard earned cash for 10 years deserve better. People who have *trusted* you deserve better.

BUT THAT BEING SAID I WANT YOU TO REALIZE-I would have never said one goddamn thing to or about you if you had actually even tried to reply to Taylor instead of just ending it with profit ridden condescension or if before that you hadn't looked to our clips for your *improvements* and then tried to paint yourself as a Saint in the process.

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by BudapestSwopeJr

I want to end this on my side because it wastes my time even though I have managed to get the amount of effort you put into your clips up slightly and your prices and padded running times reduced quite a bit I'd say. Even the folk who think I'm a *complete* asshole gotta give me a little bit of credit for that. Your time thinking about what I am saying I consider TIME WELL SPENT actually and its certainly not keeping you from working on your clips to make them better.

So here's my last *bump* for those who can only communicate in terms of marketing and profitiability.

Emotional? Well I care about what I make and Taylor does as well. We both care about what our customers think about our product and about us since fetish clip making can be very personal. We understand that many members of fetish communities have a, as Bozo said it, "WHY ARE WE SUCH FREAKS????", mindset and us coming into their forum and trying to hawk our shit can understandably get met with annoyance. Since we are outsiders we try earn our place through a give and take relationship where people learn to trust us.

Before i posted in your thread in January you and I had never exchanged as much as a PM or email. You and Taylor had a relatively frequent PM relationship at GiantessCity since November and out of those PMs came our femdomgiantess store and after seeing the numbers I then talked to a few people, looked some stuff up and read up on your production history and realized you "didn't give a shit" AND you were banking big bucks anyway. Fine.
Its not like we haven't run into that before in the greed and bullshit ridden internet fetish world.

Then came the "What can I do to improve my growth clips?" threads and after your first "new" growth clip came two emails to me with same message "I just got Gary's new growth clip. He copied *a lot* from your clips".
There were lots of suggestions from members in your "what can I..." threads that weren't in the clip but almost all the ones that were you could find in ours.
Taylor saw the replicated shots and even the stocking rips which Taylor told you how we did in Pms over at GiantessCity--after you asked her btw.
Your 5 month long friendly relationship with Taylor ended with a quick and condescending reply to her lengthy and emotional message about how she felt regarding your clip.

So let me come full circle to an earlier paragraph so I can tie this all together for you. You "have the fetish" so members of the community tend to trust and be drawn to that fact. You make *insane* gobs and gobs of money. You hardly reinvest ANYTHING to try and make something people could REALLY DIG BUYING. You don't even try which is really, really sad.
If you cared AT ALL about your own productions or actually spent just *a little* of the river of cash you bring in you could have been the greatest fucking asset to YOUR community and the sky would be the limit on the level of AMAZING you could be producing. Instead you squandered 10+ years never improving above marginal changes that have come about to maximize your profit with the least amount of effort and cost.

You have had the ability to make a lot of dreams come true but instead you have made a lot of people have to "dream harder" just to make your clips seem real on any level.

The low budget appearance of your clips is readily turned into a built in excuse that people throw out when your clips are criticized. You make a buttload selling your clips so that "low budget look" is repeated and used by you as a marketing strategy. Smart business decision but...
People who have supported you with their hard earned cash for 10 years deserve better. People who have *trusted* you deserve better.

BUT THAT BEING SAID I WANT YOU TO REALIZE-I would have never said one goddamn thing to or about you if you had actually even tried to reply to Taylor instead of just ending it with profit ridden condescension or if before that you hadn't looked to our clips for your *improvements* and then tried to paint yourself as a Saint in the process.

So can we leave it at that?

I know you guys work hard at what you do. I am sure everybody just wants to see the next Mistress Taylor Growth Masterpiece as opposed to watching us fight.

Seriously, I really do like you guys you got a great operation and are one of the best things about Clips4Slae so I am sad that this is going on between us but from the above post I see that I will just have to move on and hope you do the same.

[midnight_writer]

Say hallelujah!

[grtcaligal]

*ahem*

C'mon people now, Smile on your brother
Ev'rybody get together Try and love one another right now
Some will come and some will go We shall surely pass
When the one that left us here Returns for us at last
We are but a moments sunlight Fading in the grass
C'mon people now, Smile on your brother
Ev'rybody get together Try and love one another right now

[Mr Wayne]

Hey I had a big hand in cooling down this dispute ....pauses.... starts to sing KoomBayYah ;-)


Hooray for both BudapestSwopeJr and RacerX, let's hear a round of applause and swift return to regularly scheduled programming shall we?