05-10-2009 | #337 |
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Re: Mistress Taylor Presents BE Updates
I don't do a lot of posting because frankly I don't really like talking about this sort of thing because I find it a more private matter, but I do occasionally speak up and when I do I like to think I put some thought into what I say.
First and foremost I have to state my comment on the criticizing of Taylors work. I feel that it is very important to remember the difference between complaining, criticism, and constructive criticism. Complaining is simply stating displeasure, saying "This sucks." That is never helpful. Criticism can be helpful because criticism at least targets what does not work. "That guy talking for 10 minutes didn't work." Finally constructive criticism is taking criticism a step further and suggesting not only what was wrong, but what you would like, what you expect, and what you think could work. "Extend the beginning expansion a bit to give us more of a tease" is an example. Now I should also mention, this is a PUBLIC forum, where the topic is BE and transformation fetishes in general. People have every right to criticize a product, especially one they paid for. Would you go on a Star Trek board and say to anyone who complained about the new movie "Hey if you didn't like the Star Trek movie, don't watch it and shut up!" If so you are missing the point of discussion. Discussion without free review of the negative aspects of something is nothing more than a lame ego stroke of a product. Of course positive comments should be utilized as well, but to be actually useful, you have to let it go both ways. Granted, trolling can happen, but in those cases you should simply call them out, and not by saying "you shouldn't say that!" but instead by engaging them. "What did you think sucked? Because I liked it!" or "If you didn't like that part, what do you think would have worked better?" and of course there is simple flat "I don't agree, I think that this worked" and that is all fine and good, but the thing I rightfully hate is when someone is simply told "You can't say that!" as a knee jerk reaction. It simply makes you out to be the bigger fool because if you cannot engage or otherwise debunk something and simply try to cover it up, it is as bad as a confession saying that you know this is a problem, but are in denial about it or just want to cover it up. When you make a public product, such as they do, they are going to be held to public scrutiny, and they should expect that. Now they do have a right to simply ignore us or even stop making the product, but seeing as how most of us are continual paying customers, they probably won't. We should be responsible and be as constructive as we can, but frankly they need to have a bit of a thick skin and not see negative comments as nothing but complaints and bad feelings, but instead opportunities to figure out where they can improve and keep their customers. Now that I have that out of the way, I have given a bit of thought to the clips of late you have released and would like to take the time to engage you in what I think can improve and what needs to improve, and hopefully some of my ideas on how to improve it. Of the 4 recent clips I bought I liked 2. I bought Slow for a Saturday Night, Taylor's Mind Control BE, Bella (7 vials), and the Nyomi Growth Clip. The one I liked was the mind control one and the Nyomi Growth clip. Believe me when I say I wish most sites had this good a track record, but I digress. Lets start with why I didn't like Slow for a Saturday Night. Well let me surprise you by saying I did like a lot of it. In fact I have to say a certain portion of it was real quality work. The ambiance was pretty cool and the sound effects for the perking breasts were great. In fact I was very well enjoying that part of it, up until the part where she suddenly went "They are getting so big, I like it!" This was bad for pacing reasons. You shifted gears from 2nd to 4th without the clutch. The reason I liked the scene was it was subtle but noticeable growth. And the actress was really getting into it, as far as her expression showing signs of disbelief, first shruggint it off as her imagination then dawning comprehension, followed by her questioning what was in the drink and an accusing face at the person serving it. THAT, was quality. Then suddenly the woman went from a D cup to what must have been a G cup or higher and talking about how she loved the expansion. It was as if a large scene was cut for some unknown reason that was the inflation between the D cup and G cup, and there was where she figured it out and accepted it. Believe it or not, that is important. Now I understand if you had too much time already in the shot, but that leads me to the next point. The beginning. Now that was a pretty accurate portrayal of a conspiracy nut ranting about things he clearly had no idea about and read on some stupid web site, and the actor portrayed that well. So why did people hate that part of the movie? Because we don't like listening to those guys in the first place! More to the point, it was unrelated. It didn't set up the character, at least not as far as the expansion goes, it was irrelevant to the whole expansion scene. Do not get me wrong, I am not against using speech and back story and setup for characters, but keep it related to the expansion scene. For example, if the guy had beeen talking about his job and about how his medical lab had been working on hormonal growth or some such which could be used to make leaps in growth of plants and animals for foods, or even better "My lab has even begun working on a new hormone that will make plastic surgery obsolete." That would have been an excellent tie in. Speaking of tie ins, that brings me to the next point concerning Bella/The 7 vials. Exposition is, in fact, a very useful tool for fantasies such as this. It makes the whole thing feel more real. The 7 vials seemed so promising. Even it's NAME had more plot ideas swimming in it than most others which just said "Daphne loves expansion" and such, so instead it looked like it would be a real story up and including the introduction. I liked the introduction. Maybe others didn't but to me, it was a little too long, but not by very much for me. It made me feel like this was going to be a real story, where we found out what the 7 vials do. Instead we actually get LESS story than the rest of them. In the rest normally someone buys a get boobs quick type item or finds a magic wand or some such. This one went sort of like this: 1) "Hi Taylor I'm here" 2) "Hi I left some water. Sit down and drink it!" 3) "Okay!" *drinks* 4)*boobs grow* 5)"My boobs are growing!" 6) "I like how my boobs are growing!" 7) Repeat lines from 5 and 6 over and over. Again, there were some things I liked, the shots weren't horrible and the subtle use of fisheye to show growth was a nice touch and well pulled off, but that scene lasted for 4 minutes and was at best a minute's worth of material. She repeated the same things over and over as her boobs barely showed much sign of expansion. The actress just was not good at making it work. Now we have seen it work before by having nothing but expanding breasts and the actress talking about how she loved it, but this actress did not sell it. Now when Taylor did it, it worked beautifully, because she had a pretty good gift to improv it and make it feel like it's what she wanted. (I still laugh when I see her go "Pinch pinch pinch! Okay I'm not dreaming") Again this actress clearly was not into it and it felt forced. Now that was bad, but you can't necessarily make an actress act great if she doesn't have the skill, but what was missing was, what were the 7 vials? Was there any exposition? It was never even showed that one of the vials was in the water (Which I am completely guessing is what happened). I am about to give you my wholesale suggestion and explanation so you can maybe understand what we want and hopefully this will help keep and even expand (pardon the pun) your customer base. The breast expansion lovers tend to fall into one of 2 categories. The first are the inflation fans. Those that love expansion, and generally those aren't limited to the breasts. Ass, body expansion and inflation, they tend to love it. The other is transformation fans. These are people who live to see someone become something else, smaller, bigger, taller, shaplier, etc. These are the types who probably enjoy your growth clips and your muscle expansion clip. Some fans also fall into both categories and will take either. I personally fall into the latter category. Now if you want to hook in the lot of us, you will have to remember a few nice things. 1) Don't just start it all off at the drop of a hat, lead us into it. For many the transformation is something of a tease, watching the clothes slowly shift and the bits start to leak out are examples of things we love to see. The original Taylor growth clip was an excellent example of this. It might not have had a plot, but you saw shoes tighter, necklaces tighter, buttons bursting, belts being pulled apart, etc. This should apply to everything. The more interaction the better. 2) A reason for whats happening helps. It gets truly immersive if there is something at least somewhat plausible causing it. You have done this many times and I applaud it. It isn't a necessary step, but it is helpful and it is why we were so looking forward to the 7 vials. If you are strapped for a plot, try reading up on a few transformation stories. http://www.overflowingbra.com/ this is a great resource (Though I suggest using the search option to weed out stories you might find a little disturbing) Hell one of the biggest favorites fr this sort of thing around here is a movie called "Mood Boobs". Google the trailer to see what it is about. It had a plot. Granted the plot was pretty shallow, but it was interesting. The classic transformations stories are great references for idea, think the wolfman, Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde, even vampires, etc. With some minor changes these can become transformation stories. And feel free to make some things up, they don't exactly have to be historically accurate. You could explain that you found the lost necklace of Cleopatra that gave her her great beauty and assets. Or the lost scepter of Imahotchick, the greatest sorceress beauty ever. 3) Multiple transformations are well loved here. I don't mean two sets of tits growing, though that is nice as well, or the same tits growing twice. Instead, you can really make your work stand out a bit by including other transformations in there that add to the experience. This may be me, but I am a fan of more than just breasts growing, or just growth period. My personal favorite is not just breast growth, but increased beauty. As an example, you can have them drop their glasses, their hair change color, or even have a sudden change of attitude. My personal favorite, and this may sound weird, is wight loss. A fat woman becoming slim and hot while having a nice set of boobs on top of it or a woman with a fat flabby ass turning into a nice round one. On possible reason for this could also be their age regressing, fountain of youth may have extra benefits including extra cup sizes along with youth, and becoming horny as hell to top it all off. If you want I'll even give you some suggestions for possible 7 vials themes that could work with all sorts of things. I think you might find your actresses working a bit better if they felt their plot was a bit more laid out. Not that most of them need it. really the one thing your site has above and beyond most others is a great set of actresses, Taylor especially. 4) Keep everything related to the theme. Let's not have another rant like we did with Saturday Night. Everything that is stated should in some way trace back to what is going on. That is pretty much all I have to say. If you want me to expand on any point, feel free to ask. |
05-10-2009 | #338 |
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Oh no its the "Stop taking it so personal---its just business" argument.
1. If we did this by thinking only about business then we repeat the same formula until business went down and then we'd change it up a little. Then REPEAT. If we put half the effort into our BE clips that we do our sales would drop but the % would be half that at the very most. So business wise we are being stupid. Why? Because its personal. We try to make as many community offered suggestions a reality in our clips as we can because we enjoy that interaction and the challenge it presents. When a non-subjectively phrased "don't waste your money" rant about our clip is posted as the first reply we start thinking interaction and all the extra effort ain't worth shit when we thought we were building a relationship with the community where there was some trust that we were not simply here to rape people's cookie jars. The effort was there with "Saturday Night" and its more then obvious when you watch it so what is the point in personally making sure that few people buy it as possible? Teaching us a lesson in loyalty? Even though you've bought so many clips you still will go out of your way to call us out and make it hurt financially when you feel we've made a mistake---not a mistake of not trying hard enough though---just not making porn as perfectly as its made in so many other fetishes I guess. 2. Shimmerin brings up an interesting point. There are people who emailed us saying they hated the first Daphne clip and some of their reasons were valid while some were, as they readily admitted, just personal tastes. The valid complaints we attempted to address and the personal tastes we kept in mind and tried to make videos later that were catered to them. This happens with most of our clips. 3. Pms and emails are a pretty good tool as The Warlock mentioned. I frequently have to delete messages from mine because its always approaching full. The Warlock has sent me pms with suggestions on how to improve some things. DrEnlarge has as well and in one recently he criticized the Hooters clip which was one other people really liked. We have all those PMs, all the emails and all the requests that come off our "Request Form" printed out and we go through them all the time before shoots. If someone doesn't like a clip and they PM me and explain why--maybe they only like scared inflation VS enthusiastic and the clip was mostly the latter--then I'll usually say "What clip you want instead?' and then I give it to them. I've given away a good number of clips here while having PM conversations. Candide-I wasn't referring to this forum when I said "our forum". I was referring to the forum at TaylorMadeClips. We are very receptive to suggestions AND complaints but what form they take should be relative to the situation and relative to the producer-customer relationship and I certainly feel that the form used here was fucked up. That being said I still only posted here because Netripper got pissed at me and posted here out of anger and said a bunch of negative shit yet didn't mention that he actually liked the clip and even recommends it. I read Candide's original reply and his reply to Taylor and didn't say anything. But when replying to Netripper I thought at least he was pissed and that was a decent motivation for posting what he did but Candide seemed to make an attempt to make us "listen" and stop taking chances by hurting our sales. Even this subsequent wave of criticism is at least part of on ongoing argument with me and it isn't being offered solely and simply to hurt our sales therefore making a point that we were stupid and we failed and we deserve to pay for it regardless of any track record or the amount of effort that went into it. |
05-11-2009 | #339 |
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Kids: they're so cute until they find a keyboard and believe they have a brain.
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05-13-2009 | #341 |
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Daisy saw her friend Heidi(A VERY SPECIAL PRESENT) and now she wants Taylor to give her the same boobs! Taylor teaches her the exercises that Veronica used for her expansion but Taylor has another trick up her sleeve. Part of the 7 Vials series. I will post some better pictures later. I am about to start work and do not have time right now. http://taylormadeclips.com/images/t_daisybe.jpg
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05-18-2009 | #342 |
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After several days, I've given the brief (and yet so lengthy) outburst of critical/anti-critical sentiment some thought, and decided that I have one thing to add. While I do stand by what I said, I feel that it was unfair of me to only offer my (extremely) negative review without first commenting on the overall experience that I've had with TaylorMadeClips. For that, Bud, Taylor, I am sorry.
"A dissatisfied customer will always be X times as vocal about their experience as a satisfied customer will." The number (X) varies, but the message remains the same every time I hear it from someone who works in sales or customer service. From the consumer's standpoint, that means a single positive review should carry more weight than a negative one. So let me say this about TaylorMadeClips: with perhaps the sole exception of "Mood Boobs" (Rolfe Kanefsky and The Warlock's magnum opus), Taylor continues to produce the best premium Breast Expansion and Growth fetish material available. If you are a fan of BE or GTS and for some reason haven't purchased at least a few of their clips, you owe it to yourself to do so. The vast majority of the dozens of videos I've bought from taylormadeclips.com have been highly satisfactory. Generally they are creative, with better-than-average acting from some genuinely sexy models. While I won't exaggerate and say that the clips are perfect, what outside of your or my imagination could possibly be? For the price, Taylor's fetish vids are the best entertainment BE fans can get. So, while I can't promise never to criticize a video ever again, I will endeavor to always put it in context first. That is to say, I will compare it to the many clips I have bought and thoroughly enjoyed over the past year and a half. -- Candide |
05-19-2009 | #343 |
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This video was much better. I mean it. You gave a sort of funny backstory, which explains what the 7 vials are, or at least alludes to them. The interaction between Bud and Taylor wasn't funny enough to make me laugh, but it was funny and cute enough to give the story a boost.
The premise was much better, the whole idea of the vials added with Taylor's obvious bit of sneakiness and willing to use other girls as guinea pigs of a sort makes the whole thing a lot more fun than a completely blank background. As for the expansion itself, it was a whole lot better than the one before it. It showed real creativity in how the expansion happens, what funny cover up Taylor gave, and the sound effects were original too and in this case worked. You worked from subtle to noticeable and the asymmetry of the expansion, happening in bursts and switching between the boobs, great move. The actress was much more varied, and felt much more genuine. I love how se commented not just on how big they are, but on other things like saying her waist looked smaller. She had more real reason to enjoy them because she felt they made her more beautiful overall, instead of being completely fixated on them being bigger like someone with a severe overcompensation complex. I also thought the clothing lended themselves to the expansion very well, the shape and behavior and all that. You might end up losing points with some people since the growth stopped at a level that is somewhat shorter than most, but if you ask me I think you stopped at a great spot. Much more and I probably would have just skipped over the rest to the end. Again that is just me, I am one of the ones around here who prefer the more subtle BE that stops before they reach the size of their head and likes quality over quantity. I can think of very few clips I enjoyed more. I would give this clip a 9 out of 10. Of the highest quality you can get without indulging some preferences of mine that are actually specific to me and not necessarily BE related. (See the Increased Beauty thread for what I prefer) |
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07-02-2009 | #346 |
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New trailers up at FetishFad.net for Graceland Love Affair and 2 Daisy BE clips.
Plus we just updated Bustin' Loose
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Thank you for your latest contribution to the fetish community here, Mistress Taylor. It is very much appreciated.
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I love this clip I just put up. I have quite a few new clips coming out with some great new models. We fell really far behind on editing. Carolyn performs spell and her breasts grow huge. (Big Growth with great button popping). She reverses spell her breasts shrink and does second growth with amazing cleavage. I love this clip. A double BE and Carolyn`s acting are amazing.
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