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Unread 12-05-2015   #25
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

I barely follow the subject of this thread but really...

... if it comes to fetish work, really... Steam games is the LAST thing you want to bring up.

Really, citing Steam prices when discussing the value of anything is actually unofficially codeword for "Entitled gamer" in a lot of circles. There's a certain amount of developers who're themselves asking how long the PC gaming industry will be able to continue with these before something will have to give and break, especially when discussing Steam sales and the pressure they put on developers to price their games lower than the worth of the resources spent making them.

Beside, last I recall we're talking fetish content, not video games. Yes there -will- be pricing differences.

One is the work of an entire studio, who can expect economy of scales when pricing things being able to expect an audience not in the dozens or hundreds, but in the ten of thousands at the minimum -and- will have access to the retail and sales services to reach those numbers, potentially with a marketing department to boot or advertisers to help further spread knowledge of their game.

And to counter the "classic" game argument, with digital distribution they can even re-release old games who have long since been more than paid for even after the original development team has disbanded, and still make money from it no matter how low the price because the whole "expenses" part has already been fully been repaid and pretty much null now because there's likely not even any development team they have to pay anymore!

The other is generally the work of independents working from their own houses with limited resources, word-of-mouth advertising at the best, reaching only dozens or hundred at best, ontop of having to tiptoe careful with most payment services who, like Paypal, might be ready to ban them for life for producing content of any remotely pornographic nature by often claiming "it's the credit card companies who want us to".

And, you know, often have as a result to actually produces such work while already working somewhere else, thus having to literally make it out of what little free time they have left after a day's work. And that's without mentioning how even a ton of recording content will still take more time to produces than the length of the actual recording due to editing or having to repeat segments of their show or recording due to mistakes made during the productions forcing them to do over.

Seriously, 5$ for 10 minutes of recorded content with no visuals is actually a pittance considering the work and category. Especially fetish work anything.

So yeah you could get a "classic" game for less, but you're also literally comparing orange and apple. Or specifically... the work of an independent working from their house to produce a niche product with word of mouth marketing on niche internet forums to the production of a likely long-disbanded studio which a multiple-millions publishers just finally decided to dust off to chuck it into a millions-users online store likely to the reporting of dozen of thousands-users game sites to boot likely to be read by the thousand of gamers who were likely just waiting for an excuse to buy a new copy of a game they'd likely already completed in the past anyway.


Also, fun fact? I've never downloaded or gotten any of the recording voiced here because I just never even tried audio books in the first place. So I can really say I'm not even a fanboy of these things.

So really, if you want to bring the price of dusty old games on a multiple millions users sale platform... sure, go ahead. Go and buy that classic game if that's what really make you happy or what you enjoy doing.
But please don't compared them to a totally different thing as if you were assuming they could even be comparable.

As while you're right to enjoy the type of gaming you get on Steam, others are indeed right to enjoy the type of fetish works they sure as hell could expect to never show up on Steam.

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Unread 12-05-2015   #26
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

Day 05 is up for those who want it.

For others who are just complaining about the price:

If you don't want it, think it's too expensive, I get it, it's not going to be for every one. I'm not going to take the energy to explain to you the difference in pricing adult work compared to video games, or professionally done audio books. At this point it's like arguing with a wall.

As far as effort, that's kind of up to the person. You want me to put out a shit product, have me sit down and try and write erotica, (my hands get busy doing things other than typing while my mind reels, and things get rushed quick fast and in a hurry) but if you ask an author to read aloud one of their stories I bet you'll get the same reaction (my favorite author tell us all the time at his book signings that he can't read his own work aloud). People struggle with different things all the time and stick to what they're good at. Also the effort put into a full fledged audio book (which is not what I normally do unless commissioned) is spread across many people, (Author, reader, audio techs, advertisers, editors) so of course they are going to put out a far superior product because there is a team of people working on it. I am one woman just doing what she loves.
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

I wasn't saying anything about a professional audio book being superior or not.

I was talking about a professional audio book being cheaper - DESPITE having a way higher production cost than self-published audio snippets. The only thing you have to motivate higher cost is a lower customer base, which undoubtedly becomes even lower if you scare people away with a lack of previews and a steep price. It's almost as if you don't want repeat customers!

For the sake of the argument, how much time and money is involved in these things? What is the production value for you? Are you really expecting your fetish audio work to put the metaphorical bread on your metaphorical table? I'm sorry for coming off as confrontational, I just feel a starving fetish community deserves some explanation to why they should accept prices that would cause riots in other more mainstream communities.

Also, plenty of my favourite authors read their own work, many on the logic that "only I know how it's supposed to sound like". But that's beside the point.
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Unread 12-05-2015   #28
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Tldr; False equivalence? Steam comparison is apt because the amount of effort put in behind the scenes has zero to do with the open market or what you, as the consumer, ought to be concerned about. We are still talking digital goods with the capability of being reproduced with near-zero marginal cost once it is released.

Oh, it's adult content? Great, let's talk about all the free porn tubes, cheap e-book erotica, backlog of ten years or more of content production on boorus and forums, and live action video that charges $1 a minute instead. Did I mention the free and low-cost adult video games you could get your hands on? Last I heard the professional porn producers are hurting because people can get cheap amateur clips to tickle their kink, and now PornHub and its network of sites.

Porn has never been more available and cheap, and she wants to charge $125 for a piecemeal product with a terrible marketing campaign.

Not saying there isn't room for phone sex providers on the market, but I know some people are going to press Buy Now with their penis, and god bless them. Advertise to those rich people.

Edit: spelling fixes. Rawr.

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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

Some of you don't think this is worth the money. We get it. You can feel free to stop now.

Further posts that merely reiterate that point will be deleted, and if necessary, further actions will be taken. Fair warning.
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

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for what its worth. Janus was giving us an example of her voice... she doesn't just read to us in her pay work. her samples from her own site are more indicative of her content. the sample Janus gave us is a commissioned work in which the performer was ASKED to simply read a story...

not saying anything about the quality of the content, just wishing the content to be judged fairly, and not based on an unrelated commissioned work.
Agreed, and thank you Madcow.
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

Day 06 is up and she's frustrated as hell, adapting to masturbating this new appendage is harder than she thought.

As far as effort, I work in stages. I record as much as I can in a day and then work on all of the technical stuff on multiple files on a different day. On a good day I can record 15 files, it's tough work because it's not just the 2.5 hours of recording and then bam I'm done. I need to take breaks between the files, I have to restart them from time to time if a siren wails by my place which is a common occurrence because I live near a hospital. Or if my phone goes off cause I got a call, or I forgot to turn off my computer speakers and someone messages me or some other audible notification goes off. Sure I could just pause and cut that part out, but these aren't meant to be characters who are excellent at audio editing.

My best day I recorded 24 files and finished off one of the calendars. I also was pretty much glued to my desk for 10 hours straight trying to get it done. I have not been able to do that since. and I needed to take about 3 days off afterwords to relax my throat. I recorded 10 files today and it took me about 4 hours. So yes, it takes a lot of time.

Rendering the files into a playable format is just a pain in the butt. I rendered about 18 files last night and it took me about 3 hours. And another hour to put up the 6 files that were on sale for that day.

As far as cost the only thing I could really site is my expensive recording equipment (USB microphone, sound proof box that will take care of sirens at least a block away) and internet connection. If I were to pay for advertising I think I'd just about break even or spend more money then I'll ever make.
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Unread 12-10-2015   #33
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

The last 3 days have been posted for you all to enjoy.
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Been updating daily, I hope you who are listening are enjoying.
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Re: 25 inches of Christmas (futa Growth)

She's a got a boyfriend who loves her giant cock, but how long will that last?
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Only two more days left! and tomorrow's is going to be really good, so keep an eye out for it!
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