Evil conversion(for the lack for better term) - Page 589

BillPratt · 08-20-2014

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Originally Posted by Xanderfox

Well i do know that The Question who inspired Rorsach eventually got a personality over haul becoming pretty much the same character as Rorsach.

Not quite. the Charleton Question was an... interesting fellow written by an even more interesting fellow. DC toned the guy down dramatically.

rick404 · 08-21-2014

Both characters are male and do not involve transformation or corruption: They are the same in my book.

Let's go back to being an EC thread.

sodacat · 08-21-2014

The fetishization of piercings and tribal tattoos in "evil conversion" always seems so passe to me. Here's this girl with demonic, chitlious living armor covering most of her body, but the tipping point is supposed to be a pair of steel loops?

rick404 · 08-21-2014

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Originally Posted by sodacat

The fetishization of piercings and tribal tattoos in "evil conversion" always seems so passe to me. Here's this girl with demonic, chitlious living armor covering most of her body, but the tipping point is supposed to be a pair of steel loops?

Evil piercings died in the '90's when punk nose piercings gave way to the yuppie nose stud.

babblingfaces · 08-22-2014

It depends on the kind, really. For the most part genital and nipple piercings would still be seen today as a very overtly sexual thing to do, all of which has its effects detailing the fall from grace for a character meant to be "pure". Not so much other piercings of course, but hey. As for tattoos... Well, they're illustrations... A lot of things can be conveyed in tattoos, doesn't have to be the usual tribal thing in which case is more of a "slutification" process than anything... Assuming there still is some manner of taboo associated to that too. In my country at least there does seem to be.

But for the most part I reckon both are more directly linked to slutification and then somehow make their way into evil corruption by the age-old association of promiscuity with sin, therefore with evil. And of course as a way to want to overtly sexualize the process too, sort of call attention to the sluttier side of the character and so on, so forth. I reckon it depends on the context for it to work, and I think it doesn't really work in the above as - as mentioned - the revealing demonic armour already sells the message across through and through, and the piercings only seem to banalize the piece.

Xanderfox · 08-22-2014

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Originally Posted by babblingfaces

It depends on the kind, really. For the most part genital and nipple piercings would still be seen today as a very overtly sexual thing to do, all of which has its effects detailing the fall from grace for a character meant to be "pure". Not so much other piercings of course, but hey. As for tattoos... Well, they're illustrations... A lot of things can be conveyed in tattoos, doesn't have to be the usual tribal thing in which case is more of a "slutification" process than anything... Assuming there still is some manner of taboo associated to that too. In my country at least there does seem to be.

But for the most part I reckon both are more directly linked to slutification and then somehow make their way into evil corruption by the age-old association of promiscuity with sin, therefore with evil. And of course as a way to want to overtly sexualize the process too, sort of call attention to the sluttier side of the character and so on, so forth. I reckon it depends on the context for it to work, and I think it doesn't really work in the above as - as mentioned - the revealing demonic armour already sells the message across through and through, and the piercings only seem to banalize the piece.

I'd say the posts in this thread that actually disappoint me are ones that focus on the whole "dressed like a slut and or goth" and completely throw out any true transformation aspect. Same can be said the the numerous manga posts where a female character simply has rough sex, no change to their personality or physical self, just run of the mill rough sex.

rick404 · 08-22-2014

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Originally Posted by Xanderfox

I'd say the posts in this thread that actually disappoint me are ones that focus on the whole "dressed like a slut and or goth" and completely throw out any true transformation aspect. Same can be said the the numerous manga posts where a female character simply has rough sex, no change to their personality or physical self, just run of the mill rough sex.

Curious what you all think in your own opinion makes a good corruption scenario? What makes it work for your personal taste? Extra credit if you post examples...

sodacat · 08-23-2014

I'm going to say the baseline of evil conversion should be Dark Mercury. There's enough time before and after for the character to show a change, the transformation has at least a seed of legitimate seduction, and the character has autonomy in their actions on both sides of the coin.

More elements can be added on, but that's the foundation.

Xanderfox · 08-24-2014

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Originally Posted by rick404

Curious what you all think in your own opinion makes a good corruption scenario? What makes it work for your personal taste? Extra credit if you post examples...

Well I'm not sure corruption is the correct term for Evil Conversion, or more correctly I consider Evil Conversion a type of corruption. A character's moral compass and way of thinking has to be completely reversed from their normal condition relatively suddenly and by force for me to consider it Evil Conversion. Corruption can take days, weeks, or even years and can be gradual. Evil Conversion is to me much more sudden, and the character does not willingly (or at least knowingly, they could be tricked) under go the process. I realize physical alteration or mutation is no necessary, but I like transformation (it's why I am here) so I like to see that as an aspect.

Voltronzilla · 08-24-2014

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/730180/6839ce8b11/

Well then. This seems like a neat alternate origin story for Mistress 9.

riderkid · 08-24-2014

Just spent time with TitanFall... I would love to see the Zofa army try to deal with Gun toting Parkour soldiers with mech drops!

Devspar_Zero · 09-03-2014

For example (which I took from a page of dungeon and dragons), Wights. Any living being killed by the wight will become wights themselves. So a single wight could, theoritically, overwhelmed an entire small nation within a span of a week, a large continent within a month, and the entire world within the year.

Zofa is like this... it only takes one cell to infect an entire populations.

Your 'Titanfall' would be helpless to fight an entire nation of Zofa infected soldiers. Most of Titanfall's soldiers are that, trained soldiers, which needs time and no small amount training to be any good.

Zofa simply infects a random person and voila, instant soldier. Now can you tell me who has the better chance of winning?

08-22-2014	#7061
babblingfaces Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 166	Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term) It depends on the kind, really. For the most part genital and nipple piercings would still be seen today as a very overtly sexual thing to do, all of which has its effects detailing the fall from grace for a character meant to be "pure". Not so much other piercings of course, but hey. As for tattoos... Well, they're illustrations... A lot of things can be conveyed in tattoos, doesn't have to be the usual tribal thing in which case is more of a "slutification" process than anything... Assuming there still is some manner of taboo associated to that too. In my country at least there does seem to be. But for the most part I reckon both are more directly linked to slutification and then somehow make their way into evil corruption by the age-old association of promiscuity with sin, therefore with evil. And of course as a way to want to overtly sexualize the process too, sort of call attention to the sluttier side of the character and so on, so forth. I reckon it depends on the context for it to work, and I think it doesn't really work in the above as - as mentioned - the revealing demonic armour already sells the message across through and through, and the piercings only seem to banalize the piece.

08-24-2014	#7066
Voltronzilla Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 233	Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term) http://g.e-hentai.org/g/730180/6839ce8b11/ Well then. This seems like a neat alternate origin story for Mistress 9.

08-24-2014	#7067
riderkid Gaming Journalist Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 819	Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term) Just spent time with TitanFall... I would love to see the Zofa army try to deal with Gun toting Parkour soldiers with mech drops! __________________ www.geimaku.com

09-03-2014	#7068
Devspar_Zero Lurker Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 22	Re: Evil conversion(for the lack for better term) For example (which I took from a page of dungeon and dragons), Wights. Any living being killed by the wight will become wights themselves. So a single wight could, theoritically, overwhelmed an entire small nation within a span of a week, a large continent within a month, and the entire world within the year. Zofa is like this... it only takes one cell to infect an entire populations. Your 'Titanfall' would be helpless to fight an entire nation of Zofa infected soldiers. Most of Titanfall's soldiers are that, trained soldiers, which needs time and no small amount training to be any good. Zofa simply infects a random person and voila, instant soldier. Now can you tell me who has the better chance of winning?