Giantess Zone Growth & Info Thread

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by BudapestSwopeJr

So why would the longtime growth clip maker need my post censored?

Because I am mad that you posted here?

Now THAT is insulting.

If you held the growth shots in this clip up to the light next to Growing Busty a doctor from the back of the room would yell "TWINS"!

LorKeep Asked me not to respond to it so to be Fair I asked for it to be deleted then.
But I guess I gotta respond (Ill keep it nice)

you make awesome clips but you did not invent growth scenes.

Button Popping -village of the giants

Shoe Breaking - Incredible Shrinking woman

shirt ripping - Shehulk.

Nylon Ripping - Ok, Ill give you that.

And those parts all together may be 2min of the 18min of the clip. Are clips are not the same.

Thier is no Debate you make great stuff but that does not mean no one else can try growth clips

I always knew Growth clips sold well. I made my first Growth Scene in Battle for Zantor 1997 with button popping etc. I made my Growing Pains clip over 2 years ago on PovLand.com and then made more on Gtsfx.com and also Started Growthdreams.com in July of last year, all this before you first appearance on giantess groups.

If I used your standard I could accuse all kinds of people of copying me but instead I give new producers a warm reception and try to help them as their just is not enough people making these kinds of videos.

This is the Thread that made me First come back here.
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ead.php?t=8821

someone pointed it to me. If my Videos are getting critiqued here doesn't that give me the right to come and see what I can do to make them better.

[Jamball]

I think what Bud is trying to get at is:

You're right, you've been doing growth clips for awhile, but why, all the sudden the change? I've been on the forums and in the community (as a lurker and poster) for a long time and I don't recall you asking for input before.

It's possibly I might have missed it. But, you have to admit, it's interesting that you made dozens of clips of women growing out of over sized t-shirts (which I've purchased several of, and I thank you for making these clips), and then Taylor Grows Drunk comes out, with buttons bursting and such, then Growing Busty with more button popping, nylons, shoes, etc.

I have no doubt these cut into your sales in someway, mainly if not because you're weren't the only one anymore, and you're changing your style to what the people want.

Bud's learned that the hard way in a sense. People don't want Femdom. They don't want large hairy "genies" handing out silver dildos. But they do want shoe growth, button popping and high production value. I think Bud gives this to them and you're more than capable of doing it. It's the timing of you now doing it that I believe Bud is drawing into question.

I know in the genre of growth videos, the content is limited and shots and techniques are bound to overlap, but the similarities between your latest video and Taylor Grows Busty compared to your other video (except for the newer Extreme Growths) are pretty exceptional.

Now I'm not saying you ripped off Bud's shots, but I wouldn't Bernstein ripped off Bergman.

Just my $.02

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Jamball

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by Jamball

I think what Bud is trying to get at is:
You're right, you've been doing growth clips for awhile, but why, all the sudden the change?
Jamball

again I defer to thread I was made aware of last week.
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ead.php?t=8821

So I came here and started this thread

[BudapestSwopeJr]

Originally Posted by Racerx135

LorKeep Asked me not to respond to it so to be Fair I asked for it to be deleted then.
But I guess I gotta respond (Ill keep it nice)

I like and respect Lorekeep. He 100% for the cause of this community. I cannot think of a good reason why he would delete my post but I will not repost it. None of the emails we exchanged today and this evening said anything about NOT posting on this subject.

I want to try and make this simple and VERY nice.

TIMELINE

-You made growth clips.

-Taylor and myself not even aware of growth clips

-You make more carbon copies of the same growth clips

-Taylor and myself become aware of growth clips and I contact Lorekeep about possibly making one together

-You make more carbon copies of the same growth clips

-Lorekeep emails me and says he'd like us to make a growth clip which results in the release of "Taylor Grows Very Drunk" which does extremely well and shows a concerted effort to produce something of quality and not be derivative.

-You make more carbon copies of the same growth clips

-Mistress Taylor Presents releases "Orgasmic Growth" and then "Growing Busty" which again do extremely well and show a concerted effort to produce something of quality and not be derivative.

-You suddenly feel the need to ask the members of the community what they want to see and even though they have been saying the same things for quite awhile(like in that thread you keep linking to as if thats the only time anyone has ever said anything about your clips) YOU SUDDENLY DECIDE THEY ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO!

-You make another carbon copy of the same growth clips except this time you add shots you copy almost exactly from Taylor's clips and announce there is a lot more of that great stuff on the way.

-Offense is taken from the Taylor camp after viewing the high priced clip with the padded running time and I come here and post about the similiarities.

-You post a list of sources you could have emulated since you started making the carbon copies but for some reason have brought up now as if its IN ANY WAY RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE

A LOOK INTO THE FUTURE

-You make more carbon copies of the same "Taylor" growth clips



I know posting my gripes about your clip here was a bad move for us in a business sense. But we aren't just about the bottom line. Frequently to our own detriment we actually care about what people think and say about what we make.

We have been doing this long enough to know the community loves more and more product to choose from and my post here may be seen as something that may harm that goal.

But its happened to us in other fetishes where we produce something really good and it raises the bar for other producers who monetarily get hurt when that happens.

They can either get out of cruise control and actually try and be creative again(Its called competition) or they can look at what we have done, copy it repeatedly and because of their entrenched position take back the control of their marketplace until the threat is extinguished.

Of course then you will try to create something new and different for the community right Gary?

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by BudapestSwopeJr

I know posting my gripes about your clip here was a bad move for us in a business sense. But we aren't just about the bottom line. Frequently to our own detriment we actually care about what people think and say about what we make.

OK Bud I'm giving you the last word on this.

I will make no effort to delete your comments or make any more responses to them long as you say more in return. you stated your case pretty clear and I will leave it at that.

Now lets get to work making Clips again.

Again sorry things did not work out. I wish you the best in the future.

[Angelus]

OK, both of you back to your corners and back on topic.

Since the topic of discussion was Alexia, did anyone notice that she has more than a passing resemblance to Joy Harmon?

So recommendation #1 - tight button down blue sweater.

Spray her with baby oil or water to give the illusion she's sweating. If she was growing "for real", it would be an exhausting process.

Heavy breathing - a close up of her chest heaving

Don't be "Oh no, I'm growing..." Have a little "umph" in front of it. Watch American Werewolf in London or something similar. Acting wise, this is a strange and weird occurence.

More growth from reverse, even it's just watching the shoulders moving around as the tears in the back of the shirt grow.

Multiple growth in one clip. Maybe she's wearing a different outfit and grows out of that?

Frederick's of Hollywood Extreme Cleavage Bra.

Just some ideas...

[Racerx135]

Originally Posted by Angelus

OK, both of you back to your corners and back on topic.

Since the topic of discussion was Alexia, did anyone notice that she has more than a passing resemblance to Joy Harmon?

So recommendation #1 - tight button down blue sweater.

Spray her with baby oil or water to give the illusion she's sweating. If she was growing "for real", it would be an exhausting process.

Heavy breathing - a close up of her chest heaving

Don't be "Oh no, I'm growing..." Have a little "umph" in front of it. Watch American Werewolf in London or something similar. Acting wise, this is a strange and weird occurence.

More growth from reverse, even it's just watching the shoulders moving around as the tears in the back of the shirt grow.

Multiple growth in one clip. Maybe she's wearing a different outfit and grows out of that?

Frederick's of Hollywood Extreme Cleavage Bra.

Just some ideas...

sounds like a plan. We will try it. We are also working on the Hair growth mentioned earlier and Think we got a solution for it.

I must have watched Joy Harmon in Village of the giants 4000 times since I first saw on TV in 1976. (I was like 9.)





Thanks again.