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Unread 01-18-2008   #37
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Making this a permanent thread for updates from Mistress Taylor & Co!
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Unread 01-18-2008   #38
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Veronica's Growth
Veronica learns that someone has made a cheap knockoff of her company's newest release and that they may want to harm her as well. Ultimately the job is bungled to Veronica's advantage.
For anyone waiting for some feedback on this clip here are some thoughts:

It's not a bad clip, but not great either. If you've got $4 to spare it's worth a look, but if money is scarce try another clip.

The story didn't make too much sense, but does that really matter? nope.

The actress has a nice body and I really hope to see her used again (glasses, score!), but the actual growth in this is very short, just a handful of seconds.

Besides her standing on a stool, there's not much of an illusion of growth. Her shirt is torn open but doesnt seem any smaller, it doesn't look like they switched out to a smaller shirt. The cuffs still reach her hands even tho she outgrew them earlier. Her bra looks like it's about to fall off rather than bust at the seams.

Budapest: I love the scene before the first spurt, especially the shot from outside where her shirts looks sooo very tight and she's slowly inching upwards.. it was a great buildup, then it just went snap-snap-it's over.

The last spurt has her clothes quickly fly off (without her seeming to grow), but then she gets knocked out and wakes up ginormous. (a *poof* growth sequence basically, no process) Glasses, earrings and jewelry still being worn didn't help the illusion.
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Unread 01-18-2008   #39
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Krick, I'm glad you said it before I did, cuz I may not have been as tactful. But I was like, "no this fool didn't just slap the Process growth community in the face with a *poof* growth."

But yes he did. He did slap us in the face with a *poof* growth.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #40
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I have read a lot in this forum and it was only April of last year that Bozo was trying to get a "Dream Team" together to actually start to make content for this community(content people wanted to see anyway). That thread was railroaded by "common sense" as several members mentioned that it would take thousands of dollars and several others said it was a logistical nightmare to even think about doing anything vaguely like Moon Princess(out of the 2-3 minute excerpt that I have seen a couple times the actual PROCESS of growth lasts 30 seconds & in the Veronica clip the main process is 30 seconds long. *POOF*)

I announced that I had gotten the price down as low as I could, that the clip shoot got rushed and that there was no footwear destruction. We wanted to deliver Veronica if we could so we did our very HONEST best under the circumstances to deliver the best clip possible. I like the clip and thought others would too.

The same holds true for "Silver Dildo" where the only way we could get Kimberly in a clip at all was the Fat guy and The hairy guy had to be in it(long story about slave politics and Who drove Who? but its true)--that shoot kept those people there at the location watching Taylor and me slowly destroy Kimberly's clothing for HOURS and then shoot for another 2 hours in front of a makeshift green screen in the spider ridden garage finally calling cut at 3am and they all had an hour and a half drive back.
Rough cut was 10 minutes and I couldn't justify the C4s price tag so I hacked at it until it was under 5 and even thought we could just leave the growth(2 min) and charge $5 --but they can always skip the goofball stuff that set up the growth. Again we did our very HONEST best under the circumstances to deliver the best clip possible. Intentions=Only The Best Effort=Present in Spades Logic & Good Taste=Possibly Lacking
The clip wasn't 10+ minutes with a double digit price tag AND it was made BEFORE Growing Busty and some people forget that like we listened to the GB criticism and went out and made something even more "off topic".

Its interesting how many members here say "support and don't discourage" yet I have been called a liar, been accused of "bait & switch" and a "Let the buyer beware" consumer alert has been called into affect as if we conducted some sort of criminal behavior or maybe didn't try to make good clips.

It seems its gone from nobody having any real idea how to make a good growth sequence last April to the assumption that EVERYONE KNOWS including Taylor and I and the only reason we don't deliver that EVERY TIME OUT is we lack honesty and integrity not because we are human, new at this(like all of you) and there ISN'T A WHOLE BIG VAULT OF GROWTH CLIPS DONE RIGHT THAT WE CAN DRAW OUR INSPIRATION FROM OR CARBON COPY IS THERE?.

Resized I think you go into WAY TOO MUCH detail as an initial reviewer when you could have gotten your point across to the same effect without giving up a shot by shot storyboarding of a clip that was just released. With our clips that ACTUALLY MATTERS and if you telegraph what people should be looking for than the "illusion" for them will be altered... whether you are right or not. Wait until its out a little while. But I did find some useful stuff to build on in your post as well and that is important TO EVERYONE.

I said in the Growing Busty thread...
"Maybe we should have had purposefully did a poor job so we could benefit from all those super positive "You're getting better! Go! Go! We support you!" that other producers seem to get when they release another substandard clip...
Maybe then we could have produced 20-30 clips already and made a bundle exploiting the "Learning Curve". "
--------Well with the events of the past few days it seems the learning curve can get steep quick if you know where to "learn" --AND THAT GETS APPLAUDED!

But of course its me who gets called a liar and a fool who slapped the Process community in the face.

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Unread 01-19-2008   #41
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Yes. Indeed. Allow me to retort...

Yes, the growth scene in Moon Princess may have been 30 seconds. (I don't know for sure.) But it was 30 seconds of actuall process. We saw it happen. In the Veronica clip, the growth illusion was poorly delivered. Her clothes didn't get tighter and her bra was loose for some one that had just grown a whole foot. And her second growth spurt was a *poof*.

Bud, I have seen you do better. The Tainted Flintstones and Growth Truths were wonderful. You could actually see the process, which is one thing that we all enjoy here, thus that being the name of this web site. Since I know what you and Taylor are capable of, yes I will buy your next clip.

And please don't *poof* us again.

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Unread 01-19-2008   #42
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Hey, so you know what would really help your videos?? -If you got off your high horse and stopped letting your apparently huge yet very fragile ego get in the way.

OK, so this latest video was priced really cheap... but you know what I did with it after I watched it the first time??-- RECYCLE BIN. So, yah, it was still overpriced.

It was also evident (from the girl's dialog in the phone call), that this was produced in haste as some sort of passive aggressive knock against racerX's presence on this site. ...Of course the irony was that her line "oh yah, our stuff is way better" was said in what was probably your worst product.

So you came here for advice on how to do these vids-- great! good for all of us. and as a result you did some great vids-- and as a result of that, you seem to have been rewarded w/ 4 out of 5 of your best selling vids being growth vids.
But you seem to think that it makes you some sort of trailblazer who's above criticism and gets to hold some sort of copyright on the entire idea of growth. --Not the case. In my mind, you're just a capitalist. You produce a good product and I'll reward you with my money. Produce a piece of crap -- which I pay for-- and of course you get criticism. Suck it up, learn from it and move on. Don't get all butt hurt and dwell on it.
-- and don't worry about what other growth producers are doing. So you beat racerX to this website-- good for you-- but this isn't finders keepers, you don't get to corner the market just b/c you were here first. Of course there are going to be some similarities in your stuff because you're both trying to appease the same consumer market. In the end, this market has more than enough room for the both of you; and there's enough difference in the intangible "feel" of your video productions that, even if one were to actually intend to rip off the other, the result would still be different.

I'm going to let this latest video slide. I'll view it as some sort of hiccup in the otherwise stellar collection of vids you've done.

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Unread 01-19-2008   #43
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Bud:

Please get off your high horse. You're ripping off the growth community to escalate a flame war with a competitor. I wasn't taking sides in this because I see your side that Racer has put out weak product before, but you don't exactly have a sterling record of 100% superior product.

It's childish and immature. Racer has being doing growth/giantess material before you even hit the scene. Your quality made him elevate his game. Did he use some angles that you may have used? Sure. Is it a carbon copy? I don't think so.

Both your product and his product have their advantages and disadvantages. But for you to do this - and expect the community to pay for it - is shady and slimy.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #44
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no offense bud but racerx has been here since the giantess fetish began on the internet he is practically one of the founders of the community and now you come and basically say your better than him and insult him in one of your videos.... very unprofessional.


its not my place to judge you in anyway but could you please bury the hatchet already please?
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Unread 01-19-2008   #45
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Ugh....gonna fight the urge to play peacekeeper yet again on this one. Here's my review.

Model is hot. I LOVe the hot librarian look. If her glasses just fell off and broke on the ground it would've done wonders for me. I liked the bra snapping, quick okay, but with the straps going and then the whole thing is literally just how I'd imagine it happening.
Overall the clip was nothing special. Nothing horrible, but nothing special....well maybe the model was special, but not the whole clip.. I think it's VERY important that Bud let us know in advance about what was (or more importantly, what wasn't) in the clip. That's extremely courteous of him to do so and I really appreciate it.

Conclusion: Worth $3.99

And in regards to my "Dream Team", I had to laugh, I didn't think you were around that early. When I put the idea up there, I didn't know Lorekeep was already making significant moves that would lead to the first Taylor clip and the subsequent Golden Age as I call it of Growth.

The idea was basically put together a team of writers, artists, and producers that have proven themselves as Process contributors over the years and see what we can get. A Process A-Team if you will. I was gonna bankroll it and also contribute some of my ideas, cuz I believe I have awesomes scenarios in my head that people should see.

And let me state for the record that for 5 years I've been bombarding content producers with e-mails trying desperately to explain the concept that properly done clothes and shoe ripping will MAKE your clips. It's not just because I go wild for it, but because the community has always leaned heavily in this direction. I have empirical evidence for this. There was a Yahoo group (and still is) called Ripping Fiend that didn't have shit on it. It didn't specify what type of clothes ripping but I think it was geared towards TF. Empty group with little to no worthwhile content, couple hundred members. I decided to experiment and uploaded as many clips from my personal archive that I had with clothes ripping (most of it). Then I did a one day spam on similar groups and that number shot up to the thousands REAL quick. Wanting more control, I soon removed the clips from Ripping Fiend and started my own Ripping Zone and we went to quintuple digits with members. Where's MY cookie??? Hehe...nah, don't need one, don't care. Yahoo group ain't shit to brag about. But I always point to it in my e-mails to producers because it is clear evidence that people are STARVING for this type of content.

That's why it's important that LK broke the ground on this and SHOWED everyone with action that, yes, this is the way to go. He needs a biiiig cookie. I gotta say, if anyone was gonna get us here, it makes the utmost sense that it should be Lorekeep. Cheers to you, the father of this community.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #46
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and there ISN'T A WHOLE BIG VAULT OF GROWTH CLIPS DONE RIGHT THAT WE CAN DRAW OUR INSPIRATION FROM OR CARBON COPY IS THERE?.
I think that hits the nail on the head in this issue. I don't think you're a fan of this genre, you're just here to make a buck. And there's nothing wrong with that, cuz we're willing to pay you or anyone else who'll listen to us and make these clips.

But because you're not into this as much as we are and can't know what we want, and there is no giant vault of films for you to copy, your customers have been telling you what we want. (process, ripped clothing, no Femdom). We've been telling you, RacerX, everyone who will listen. Don't get offended by this!

As for the mini-review of Veronica's Growth I don't think I gave too much away at all, the main thing I pointed out was the poof growth at the end which many of us dislike (seriously, type poof into the site search engine, it's pretty much hated by everyone here)

Everything else I mentioned (clothing not changing size, etc) can be seen in the screenshots you provided.

You basically just asked me not to review your clip even if it's not good so that more people buy it before they know how good it is. What? I bet Hollywood wishes they could ask film reviewers the same.

If I thought your clip was 100% A++ the best thing I'd ever seen would you be asking me to hold off on sharing my thoughts? Reviews work both ways.

But I didn't slam your clip, I did enjoy it and recommended others to purchase it. And as I said, I would like to see that actress again in something else. As for there being 30 seconds of process, that's up for debate on wether her looking at her tight shirt/sound fx counts as process.

I applaud you for letting us know up front that there wouldn't be shoe rippage, this is the kind of stuff we like to be made aware of. And if you didnt know about the dislike we share for poofs, sorry, but now you do know. Your clips are steadily improving, but sometimes (like this one) you seem to take a step back.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #47
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Oh and I just realized, there is a very large library of work to draw inspiration from. Growth Comics!

Sure, it's not film, but if you think of them as storyboards they're powerful tools to see what it is we're after.

I'd reccomend just about anything by Mongoose (Virulent especially), Manic, Jollyjack and many others.
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Oh and I just realized, there is a very large library of work to draw inspiration from. Growth Comics!

Sure, it's not film, but if you think of them as storyboards they're powerful tools to see what it is we're after.

I'd reccomend just about anything by Mongoose (Virulent especially), Manic, Jollyjack and many others.

THIS.
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