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Unread 01-19-2008   #49
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Unread 01-19-2008   #50
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kuenbu is the primary catalyst for my post as I was reviewing what Resized had to say--and I didn't mean to single him out as LOTS of people do that kind of detailed review for clips they like or don't like right after they are released--- when i saw another overly accusatory remark from her.
I know... get thicker skin. Sorry no way will i be called a few of the things that she's thrown at me without retorting with some passion.

Let me get to this first though...
We had a store for on Racer's site right up until the issue came about.
Complete respect for the interaction with the community and the longevity/time serving the community. We don't get along with 90% of the store owners on Clips4sale(shocker huh?) because they(for the most part) aren't active in forums, sometimes they just copy other clips VS discovering for themselves about what those fetishers want to see and they frequently don't even have an email address posted on their stores so they can be contacted. So absolute respect for Racerx being the opposite of that and we also have the same view on custom videos. But we have had 10 year vets and one month internet newbies do this to us and from our standpoint IT FEELS AND IS THE SAME. Letting it go after yelling "DAMN!" a few hundred times was what we used to do about it.
Problem with that we have learned is there is never just once... unless there is an ugly enough reaction... its so easy just to repeat and we hoped we might come up with some more really good ideas, possibly not but shit we are constantly thinking how we could wow everyone on the next clip.

So you are telling me its been ugly enough? Ok ugly quota reached.

BTW---Regardless of silly plot or the reason for the mix up in the recent clip if this whole "thing" had never happened this clip would have had 2 sentences be different and thats all. Just couldn't come up with anything at all on the shoot. Simple as that. It wasn't designed to do anything but be a clip.
So You are reading that wrong Angelus. Didn't predict the issue with Veronica being if you tightened her shirt you practically knock her over as she hardly weighs anything. Time and that were the major factors for the clip not having the amount of shots I like to play with in editing.



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kuenbu--"Yes, the growth scene in Moon Princess may have been 30 seconds. (I don't know for sure.) But it was 30 seconds of actuall process. We saw it happen. In the Veronica clip, the growth illusion was poorly delivered. Her clothes didn't get tighter and her bra was loose for some one that had just grown a whole foot."
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Great! Considering I'm new at this with all of 30 minutes total growth shot under my belt why can't you approach it that way instead of the insult with a disclaimer that your comments should have been much worse?
Starting with Growing Busty I did my best to just let your onslaught of dislike for our work and me as a person go and try to fix it with a good clip and just went into Tainted Flintstones.

But honestly if I am trying to find a comfortable place to be able to deal with and possibly even get along with the HIGHLY vocal, HIGHLY critical and multi-factioned community telling me or expecting me to be a capitalist with thick skin and no real feelings would work great I agree(for us) but you might not get the best clips that way.
If kuenbu didn't piss me off so much with that "bait & switch" comment maybe we wouldn't have turned around and got so inspired on the Tainted Flintstones clip which is generally well liked.

Criticism is almost always answered by us in the following clip release whether we argue our side to death or not.

Still asking if anyone has scripts, outlines and such. We would love to try and produce a script thats written by someone who knows what they are talking about.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #51
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Oh and I just realized, there is a very large library of work to draw inspiration from. Growth Comics!

Sure, it's not film, but if you think of them as storyboards they're powerful tools to see what it is we're after.

I'd reccomend just about anything by Mongoose (Virulent especially), Manic, Jollyjack and many others.

Sorry didn't see your replies. I said I didn't mean to take example with you specifically but really there are some very long reviews that spotlight things right as the first reply to something... liked or disliked.

We do clips we enjoy and we aren't all about the money. If you want to be yet another person to tell me the contrary I guess its your prerogative. I have been a fantasy/horror geek since I totally immersed myself in it when I was 11.
Its all I did and all I thought about for the next 20 years and I am drawn to growth, giantess and any other genre related fetishes i can find and i believe that gives me a jump start on being able to figure out how to make these clips.

These threads become a list of reviews. If I was only about the money... why the hell would i still be replying to posts only making things worse?
But seriously its like gauntlet where people rush to be first and all sound off about the same new flick. This is WAY unique in that respect to all the other forums and fetishes I know. But thats also why I think playing spoiler whether you like the clip or not is something to consider.
You view & treat your clips in a altogether different way than any other group I have dealt with. I believe also that is partially because of the scarcity of clips to view. Other fetishes have so much overkill in the amount of media produced.

Shooting something and drawing something are TOTALLY different animals. I will take a look at tour suggestions(thanks) so I can get some more ideas of what you are after and then I will attempt to translate that into a shot that has the same meaning when placed into a clip.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #52
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Still asking if anyone has scripts, outlines and such. We would love to try and produce a script thats written by someone who knows what they are talking about.
Gimme e-mail. I'll give you a couple of settings and scenarios that should work excellently. Would it be a stretch to ask for the clip for free if you use some of my ideas?
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Unread 01-19-2008   #53
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I have to offer my take on things. I got the clip and note the thing is about 4 minutes long and costs 4 bucks. I've seen the production work before and know there is a lot of effort put into these clips. I mean count the editing cuts and some of the sound effects of the previous works. Even if it is average, hey I'm out 4 bucks. There's been lots of times where I've gotten something I thought would be great and it's 10,11, even 15 bucks or more! And have they really ever lived up to what I hoped? Very rarely. What isn't rare however is the fluff that is packed into the clips. Like how the whole damn thing should have been edited from 15 minutes down to 3 and they should have renamed the thing Ishtar 2. The clip I got most recently looked moderately promising and I gave it a try. Expectedly I think I got what I paid for and I wouldn't be fair to classify it as poof growth. There was 2 stages with the latter qualifying for poof, but the first one didn't. I'm also thankful that the growth that wasn't presented was drawn out into a 5 minute sequence of the actual growth that was shown and intermixed with 80% bad ad-lib. Causing me to say "shit! I just forked out $10 for something that would fairly be sold for $4!" Plus I found the actress to be pretty attractive, she showed some chest (hard to come by) and I appreciated the fresh and professional camerawork and editing style.

I think to generalize things, I'm happy that the bar is being raised in my eyes as it can only benefit the consumer and squeeze out bad work. Some of the stuff lately that has floated around has admittedly dulled my taste for crap to the point of "shit the clip has a shiny cover, but I've been down that road and I'll wager that shiny quarter is really a rusty nickel." I give credit for efforts waged by the few producers we have in the genre, and if there is talent and hard work mixed in I'll give them business.
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Unread 01-19-2008   #54
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Still asking if anyone has scripts, outlines and such. We would love to try and produce a script thats written by someone who knows what they are talking about.
Honestly, I think this and of itself is proof that he cares. He wants US to supply some ideas so that they know where we're comming from. I've written a few short growth tales I thought about making into flash animations and/or comics (if I had any actual talent in either). I was just nervous in posting them here. I'd be alright offering a few of them to you guys so they can have more substance. Oh ye gods first I'm posting and then I'm offering material. *clutches throat* Thread... causing... lurker powers... to....dissipate!

*cough* But yes... About the latest clip. I was fine with it, thought it was worth my money if just for the whole scale thing they had at the end. The head-hitting-the-ceiling bit (if I caught that right) was great, and we got our "money shot" of her in the building at giant size. To tell you the truth, I never even payed attention to the glasses until it was brought to light here <.<;;;
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Unread 01-20-2008   #55
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Hey, so you know what would really help your videos?? -If you got off your high horse and stopped letting your apparently huge yet very fragile ego get in the way.
Whoa Audy Boy! Let me off here. [Budapest jumps off his horse nearly knocking himself out from the force of his own ego]

Thanks for liking our clips Baxter1327! Not sure how that would help our videos especially because feedback would be limited as a lot of the members here would still be high up on their horses. I find it easier to hear ideas when I am up at their level.

I don't want anyone to be misinformed if I can help it so...

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OK, so this latest video was priced really cheap... but you know what I did with it after I watched it the first time??-- RECYCLE BIN. So, yah, it was still overpriced.
It was also evident (from the girl's dialog in the phone call), that this was produced in haste as some sort of passive aggressive knock against racerX's presence on this site. ...Of course the irony was that her line "oh yah, our stuff is way better" was said in what was probably your worst product.
So you came here for advice on how to do these vids-- great! good for all of us. and as a result you did some great vids-- and as a result of that, you seem to have been rewarded w/ 4 out of 5 of your best selling vids being growth vids.
1. The clip was not made in retort to ANYTHING. The couple lines were made up on the spot & in fact weren't even suggested by myself or Taylor. Thats not what she said in the clip either. (I know you deleted your copy...sorry about that)
2. Issue is dropped... but the point behind it you have confused. I have no feeling of possible ownership nor did I get territorial about this forum.

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But you seem to think that it makes you some sort of trailblazer who's above criticism and gets to hold some sort of copyright on the entire idea of growth. --Not the case. In my mind, you're just a capitalist. You produce a good product and I'll reward you with my money. Produce a piece of crap -- which I pay for-- and of course you get criticism. Suck it up, learn from it and move on. Don't get all butt hurt and dwell on it.
3. When you are getting down to the actual numbers that are active in this fetish and several others that we produce clips in being a trailblazer really isn't all that hard to achieve. You pretty much just have to show up a couple times and you're given that title. I got my eye on the title of "pioneer". I like the sound of that AND its much better than the title Liar or being accused of bait and switch or creating a clip for purchase that had nothing but political motivations.



I hope nobody takes any of my sarcasm in the reply above seriously.


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Unread 01-20-2008   #56
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Well there's still always the n00bs who go "W0w ThIs iz da Bst grewth klip eva! mack mur!
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Unread 01-20-2008   #57
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God, a producer tries to make content for us where there was none before and this is how you repay them? I think we should be greatful to them for going to all the effort of listening to us and trying the best they can to make video clips for us to begin with. Of course they are going to get it wrong to begin with, This sort of stuff is new to them, they need some experience under their belt before they get a reasonable idea of what we want. People here also like different things, so while one person likes one thing, it might be completely different for the other, so they need to balance things very finely.
If a producer or similar takes too much stick or finds the fanbase too overwhelming, I fear they will leave, and in our community we cannot afford to let such a thing to happen. We need to give these people time to figure things out, then we should see an improvement in their work.

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Unread 01-20-2008   #58
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Seriously? I can't believe you assholes are flaming a creator of new material! The majority of you sad nerds have never created anything in your lives...let alone in your fetish community, so lay off. If you dont want something dont spend your Mom's $7.99 on it!!! Also if anybody who bitches about cost or any money problems on this board should get off of it...If you dont have at least $20 in expendable income you should get off this fetish board...grow up...get a job. Ive never heard so many grown men bitch about something so cheap. So unless your gonna create something on your own stay silent and just continue to do what you fools do best, Click.Masturbate.Repeat.
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Unread 01-20-2008   #59
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Unread 01-20-2008   #60
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This entire situation is turning into some comedy. LMAO
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