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Unread 06-22-2012   #1
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How come everyone is using Pivix or whatever that program is called?

It kinda gets annoying that everyone uses that program now, and it just seems more and more the same.

And I kinda hope people can at least go back to drawing or other forms of media besides using that program over and over again.
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Unread 06-22-2012   #2
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How come everyone is using Pivix or whatever that program is called?

It kinda gets annoying that everyone uses that program now, and it just seems more and more the same.

And I kinda hope people can at least go back to drawing or other forms of media besides using that program over and over again.
I think Pixiv is an image hub, like DeviantArt, but I'm not sure what the tool is called.

I don't mean to lick a gift horse in the mouth, but I'm afraid that I have to agree. The first time I saw it, it was meh (at least better than those South Parkesque or Gaia Online pics), but at this point these sequences are garbage to me.
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How come everyone is using Pivix or whatever that program is called?

It kinda gets annoying that everyone uses that program now, and it just seems more and more the same.

And I kinda hope people can at least go back to drawing or other forms of media besides using that program over and over again.
I fully agree with this statement its like everyone lost there talent to draw and there not pushing themselves to even try. Personally it does not fill any better then when we used to have peolpe post 3D models of AR-AP on the forums and that ended bad. Basically there is no talent here. The program has already pre automated every pose. I mean no rudeness in saying this but I also think cheap and not real art. Others are free to use and enjoy as they wish but I came here to look for art in Age Regression among other stuff. When I say art I mean something someone took there hands and used, a pen, pencil, pen and tablet or mouse to physical make lineart and color by hand which has not been pre automated by a program.

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I fully agree with this statement its like everyone lost there talent to draw and there not pushing themselves to even try. Personally it does not fill any better then when we used to have peolpe post 3D models of AR-AP on the forums and that ended bad. Basically there is no talent here. The program has already pre automated every pose. I mean no rudeness in saying this but I also think cheap and not real art. Others are free to use and enjoy as they wish but I came here to look for art in Age Regression among other stuff. When I say art I mean something someone took there hands and used, a pen, pencil, pen and tablet or mouse to physical make lineart and color by hand which has not been pre automated by a program.
I don't agree with You those sequences really took me some time to create. It's not that i sit for 5 min and then "bam" whole seq is done. You must first get really good idea and plan every pose. You must see the whole thing before it's even on the monitor. Of course I full respect Your opinion.
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I don't agree with You those sequences really took me some time to create.
The whole word create is where I disagree that its even art. Simply put you placed dedication and effort into something you thought up but it lacks a personal touch that makes its art. It’s very clear that you put effort into something you imaged but because the program does 95% of the work in pre drawn automated poses it lacks a personal touch of free handed labor.
It’s no different when someone uses Photoshop to create a background. Basically your using a tool that did almost all of the work. You’re playing with tool variables that have already been drawn by the maker of the program.

What I will give you credit for is your imagination and effort however. Just because it’s not my cup of tea does not mean everyone will dislike it. I think my issue lies in the fact that I run 12 art groups on Deviant Art and they have rules stating the art most be hand drawn. What is meant by this is someone had to have taken their hands and made something free handed rather a pen, tablet, or mouse was used. Because the program lacks the ability to let the user crated something that was not pre automated my administers have come to the concussion this it’s not art. Add in the fact that we have seen an increasing number of submissions from the few groups I run which do accept it and I had to place daily limitations. All in all the truth it’s unfair to the real artist who put a lot more effort into the art. The program is so easy to use that we were getting an over saturated amount.

However I do like the suggestion above about turning into a short story or caption and at least it’s not photography art which I hate with a pure passion. It’s quite difficult to find good captions with process art.

I appreciate that your ability to agree to disagree most people who communicate on forums are not mature enough. Do not stop making those just because I don't personally care for them. I just felt like defending the person above for stating his opinion. What him to now he is not the only who felt that way. I neither like or dislike the program is just not my in field of interests.

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I remain skeptical that, even if a truly objective arbiter of culture can be said to exist, that he or she regularly posts on a porn board.
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I remain skeptical that, even if a truly objective arbiter of culture can be said to exist, that he or she regularly posts on a porn board.
Well if they're truly objective about it, they wouldn't hold a bias against porn. The pornographic nature of the art wouldn't be relevant or cause them to shy away. So it's just as likely for that person to post about pornographic art as any other kind.
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Unread 06-24-2012   #8
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I remain skeptical that, even if a truly objective arbiter of culture can be said to exist, that he or she regularly posts on a porn board.
Not shorten if you meant this as a response to me but just in case.......

I said photography (As in real life photos) not pornography; I have no issue with pornography I just happen to like drawn works in AR/AP only.

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Not shorten if you meant this as a response to me but just in case.......

I said photography (As in real life photos) not pornography; I have no issue with pornography I just happen to like drawn works in AR/AP only.
I think you got confused.

We're on a fetish porn board right now, that's what he's referring to.
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When the fuck did I say this?
So self-centered. Everything ain't about you, child.

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