Max Landis Writing/Directing AWIL remake

[Cursebearer]

Wow, come on guys, do not pester a director about putting fetish material in his movie. Not only is it never going to happen, (particularly if he figures out why the "suggestions" are being made), it's a real creepy thing to do.

[Dr. Otto]

Originally Posted by Cursebearer

Wow, come on guys, do not pester a director about putting fetish material in his movie. Not only is it never going to happen, (particularly if he figures out why the "suggestions" are being made), it's a real creepy thing to do.

Oh, for crying out loud. Please pay attention.

Nobody's "pestering" Max Landis. Creative, healthy, non-offensive ideas are being offered as amiably as possible, and since this movie would already deal with transformation, I don't see why Max would be immediately put off by them...unless someone advised Landis to show the hero's groin transform in graphic detail. And nobody has so far. Do you really think we're that stupid?

And besides, have you even SEEN some of the fetishes that are being indulged in mainstream Hollywood movies these days? They make transformation look downright Puritan in comparison. You seem to be speaking out of a place of deep insecurity and self-loathing.

[Amahain]

Dr. Otto, this isn't about defending Landis or being self-loathing about our own fetishes.

I'm just putting myself in Landis' shoes, imagining how I'd feel if people were on Twitter asking me to add particular elements to a story. Probably the same way I feel when people PM me regarding some of my stories asking that I add certain elements that cater to their specific fetishes in the future. It's perfectly fine that some people like feet, tails, or TG, but I would ask that people understand that I'm not writing stories for them and I don't particularly like getting these requests. I like feedback, even critical feedback, but the whole "I like your story, but you skimmed over the foot transformation" sort of comment kind of irritates me (to be clear, I don't get this often. It's happened maybe three times since I started writing eight years ago).

[sodacat]

Originally Posted by Dr. Otto

And besides, have you even SEEN some of the fetishes that are being indulged in mainstream Hollywood movies these days? They make transformation look downright Puritan in comparison. You seem to be speaking out of a place of deep insecurity and self-loathing.

I disagree with a whole lot of your position, but I'll agree with this. I don't know if the torture porn genre is still going as strong as it was five or so years ago, but that shit was weird.

On the other hand, it is incredibly cheap. TF, conversely, is the most expensive visual effect bar none. The only cheap TF effect is painting over your actor with a demon face, which is why that's the only effects shot that ever shows up in all those possession movies.

Man is it disappointing that the villain of Ghostbusters 2016 was a strawman instead of female Ivo Shandor, or something.

Can you even show bare breasts in China? Not that that should be mandatory.

[sybersamurai]

It is just throwing out the idea of mixing it up by doing a female werewolf this time. The tweet I linked to was even him pondering changing up the movie a bit or hinting at it.

A female werewolf transformation could be done similarly to the first without showing "tits" or minimal nudity (for instance the fur could start covering up a portion) and we are all biased, a female tf would be no more "erotic" necessarily than the original movie was with a male tf. This is one of the most pessimistic and narrow minded communities at times. If you do not get your hopes up about anything then you have no hope and if you have no hope then why bother. There is no harm in trying otherwise give up this stupid fetish all of you. Thanks.

[Dr. Otto]

Originally Posted by sodacat

I disagree with a whole lot of your position, but I'll agree with this.

That's fine. I don't think your position is particularly attractive either.

[TailBoy]

i just hope the werewolf has a tail like in the old pics back then. XD

[Cursebearer]

Originally Posted by Dr. Otto

Oh, for crying out loud. Please pay attention.

Nobody's "pestering" Max Landis. Creative, healthy, non-offensive ideas are being offered as amiably as possible, and since this movie would already deal with transformation, I don't see why Max would be immediately put off by them...unless someone advised Landis to show the hero's groin transform in graphic detail. And nobody has so far. Do you really think we're that stupid?

And besides, have you even SEEN some of the fetishes that are being indulged in mainstream Hollywood movies these days? They make transformation look downright Puritan in comparison. You seem to be speaking out of a place of deep insecurity and self-loathing.

It's unfortunate you feel the need to color my words as "insecure" and "self-loathing". That couldn't be further from the truth. I'm even out with my significant other, and she has helped me write many of the stories in my gallery. I would have similar objections to pretty much any group trying to worm something to get their rocks off from someone outside of their specific fandom. I find it strange that you need to be told why angling for porn from an unknowing party is creepy in any capacity. This isn't a matter of "self-loathing", this is simple decency and manners.

Frankly, color me extremely skeptical that the suggestions come from a, as you put it, "healthy, creative and non-offensive" place.

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by littlegreenboggart

I do not understand this connexion you do with sex or erotic things and a female transformations...
I do not want an erotic, fetish or other things I have not fetishes and I just want to see more female transformations, End.
The nude in American cinema is not a problem, the hypocrisy in the cinema instead is a problem...

90% of Hollywood actresses have shot at least one or two movies with nudity, but not for what it is, necessarily, sex or porn. The sexy and porn it does not concern me or my interests, I want only the equivalent, uncensored, of the male transformations in female versions.

You seem to be very, very confused.

Firstly, this site that you are on, is dedicated to erotic female transformations, transformations on a fetish level in general. If you managed to wander in here without understanding that, I'm clearing it up for you now.

Also, please don't pull some imaginary nudity statistic out of your ass like that and try to pretend it's in any way factual.

Lastly.... they tried a female werewolf transformation with nudity in the sequel to AWIL... it was called 'American Werewolf in Paris', and that movie was terrible. You think the guy planning the remake of AWIL doesn't know that AWIP was awful? A female werewolf is the least likely thing he's ever going to put into the remake if he wants the thing to actually be taken seriously and make money.

Here's my prediction;

Mostly faithful remake of the original
No female werewolf
No Nazi dream sequence
CG transformation not in full hard lighting but heavily shadowed to hide the poor CG
The only practical effects will be undead Jack up until the point he's replaced with a CG skeleton.
No nudity
PG13 rating

That is what a modern remake of an 80s classic looks like, so that's what we'll get. Don't like it? Then skip it and only watch the original because it's always going to be the superior version.

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by sybersamurai

It is just throwing out the idea of mixing it up by doing a female werewolf this time. The tweet I linked to was even him pondering changing up the movie a bit or hinting at it.

A female werewolf transformation could be done similarly to the first without showing "tits" or minimal nudity (for instance the fur could start covering up a portion) and we are all biased, a female tf would be no more "erotic" necessarily than the original movie was with a male tf. This is one of the most pessimistic and narrow minded communities at times. If you do not get your hopes up about anything then you have no hope and if you have no hope then why bother. There is no harm in trying otherwise give up this stupid fetish all of you. Thanks.

There's a difference between being "pessimistic and narrow-minded", and being a realist. Look, you can offer suggestions and the like all you want; no one's stopping you. However, you should bear in mind that a well-done female werewolf TF coming from a major studio producing a movie intended for a mainstream audience just isn't likely...at all. You're not going to get something on par with AWIL in terms of a female transformation. Audiences just won't go for that, and that means there's little to no profit in going that route.

I don't know why you and Dr. Otto insist on becoming passive-aggressive on this issue. Listen to the folks that have been here a while. They've been around long enough to know what's realistic and what's not.

[Dr. Otto]

Originally Posted by Obsidian

I don't know why you and Dr. Otto insist on becoming passive-aggressive on this issue. Listen to the folks that have been here a while. They've been around long enough to know what's realistic and what's not.

Oh, I'm not being passive-aggressive at all. I'm just being aggressive.

I'm also fully aware the scenario you outlined is more than likely, and it depresses me. But depression doesn't get you anywhere. So, I made a timid little suggestion on his twitter account, because why the hell not? If it doesn't make any difference, there's still no harm in trying.

BTW, you're making the mistake of confusing "realism" with pessimism. It's a common 21st century ailment, and frankly it needs to stop. It's astonishing how far self-proclaimed "realists" will go to make reality conform to their perception of it.

[Obsidian]

*shakes head*