Feeling Low - Shrink Fan Comics

[Doll-Elf]

The art is great and the plot is decent.

The size shifts are perfect and I loved it.


I hate that it's depression that shrinks her.

I think it's a forced allegory that is low hanging fruit for a "deep meaning"

Though by now, I think everyone knows my opinion on shrinking.

I want the people that shrink to be willing, and find it enjoyable and that it's fun, not peril.


It was nice that there was not a weird penis worship sex scene or forced non-con lesbian scene.

Honestly, Laundry Day pisses me off for having that and I am so glad this did not repeat that route.

[qzar9999]

Originally Posted by Doll-Elf

The art is great and the plot is decent.

The size shifts are perfect and I loved it.


I hate that it's depression that shrinks her.

I think it's a forced allegory that is low hanging fruit for a "deep meaning"

Though by now, I think everyone knows my opinion on shrinking.

I want the people that shrink to be willing, and find it enjoyable and that it's fun, not peril.


It was nice that there was not a weird penis worship sex scene or forced non-con lesbian scene.

Honestly, Laundry Day pisses me off for having that and I am so glad this did not repeat that route.

FWIW, you are SUPPOSED to hate that part of the story in Laundry Day. She's a villain.

[Doll-Elf]

Originally Posted by qzar9999

FWIW, you are SUPPOSED to hate that part of the story in Laundry Day. She's a villain.

I know she's a villain. But I still hate the https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.../PsychoLesbian trope and how it permeates girl on girl erotica. I know that "some" enjoy it. I know that she's the bad guy and we are supposed to hate them.

I just don't see why the story needed to have it in the first place and it really distracts.

over 50 of the Shrinkfan comics are of women unwillingly being shrunk.

Some of these are just a continuation of other comics, but that makes it just as bad that the person making the story wanted to see the shrunk woman/women in peril longer, and often in MORE peril.

I'm just sick of my kink being used as a punishment or a forced unwilling participant where the shrunken character's life is in danger.

It's so fucking pervasive too. All the way back to Minimizer's work of having a giant male hand force strip and rape a tiny woman who was smaller than a barbie doll.

[変な変態]

Originally Posted by Doll-Elf

I know she's a villain. But I still hate the https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.../PsychoLesbian trope and how it permeates girl on girl erotica. I know that "some" enjoy it. I know that she's the bad guy and we are supposed to hate them.

I just don't see why the story needed to have it in the first place and it really distracts.

over 50 of the Shrinkfan comics are of women unwillingly being shrunk.

Some of these are just a continuation of other comics, but that makes it just as bad that the person making the story wanted to see the shrunk woman/women in peril longer, and often in MORE peril.

I'm just sick of my kink being used as a punishment or a forced unwilling participant where the shrunken character's life is in danger.

It's so fucking pervasive too. All the way back to Minimizer's work of having a giant male hand force strip and rape a tiny woman who was smaller than a barbie doll.

Not liking certain stories is one thing. Perfectly fine, as we all have different tastes. In matter a fact I also found that the antagonist in Laundry Day just didn’t do it for me.
But you can’t deny that this, by many, is a beloved story and the antagonist plays a important part in it. Don’t you think people would feel cheated if they adapted this story without the antagonist? I would make the argument that this wouldn’t be the same story they came to love.

I get your frustration, but I think it’s unfair to claim that “your kink” is being used somehow. Your argument sounds a lot like you being sick of people who enjoy parts of this kink you don’t.
Most of Jitensha’s work is probably not to your tastes, but I hope you would agree that there’s nothing wrong with the work she enjoys making.

There is nothing wrong with wishing that there was more consensual, girl on girl, sw, content. In matter a fact I’m wishing the same. I would just ask you to not take down those who enjoy something you don’t.

Have you read PlushWombat’s works on DA?
https://www.deviantart.com/plushwombat
He has quite a few romantic SW stories. As far as I know all of them are girl on girl.

[Doll-Elf]

Originally Posted by 変な変態

Not liking certain stories is one thing. Perfectly fine, as we all have different tastes. In matter a fact I also found that the antagonist in Laundry Day just didn’t do it for me.
But you can’t deny that this, by many, is a beloved story and the antagonist plays a important part in it. Don’t you think people would feel cheated if they adapted this story without the antagonist? I would make the argument that this wouldn’t be the same story they came to love.

I get your frustration, but I think it’s unfair to claim that “your kink” is being used somehow. Your argument sounds a lot like you being sick of people who enjoy parts of this kink you don’t.
Most of Jitensha’s work is probably not to your tastes, but I hope you would agree that there’s nothing wrong with the work she enjoys making.

There is nothing wrong with wishing that there was more consensual, girl on girl, sw, content. In matter a fact I’m wishing the same. I would just ask you to not take down those who enjoy something you don’t.

Have you read PlushWombat’s works on DA?
https://www.deviantart.com/plushwombat
He has quite a few romantic SW stories. As far as I know all of them are girl on girl.

I have read and prefered PlushWomabt's work.

What I am saying is that there is an uncomfortable majority of stories, typically male focused, on keeping the female lead in peril or being punished for perceived slights. It's an obvious power fantasy and if you have been in the scene as long as I have, you would have noticed how violent SW can be and how so many male SW writers seem to be bleeding female people they know irl or simulations of women they know into these works. Often over the idea of control (read: non-consensual)

I' not here to 'knock' against people's kinks. I just don't want people getting a boner over keeping women terrified and under power with the threat of potential violence with them being shrunk.

Take Boom, Boom, Shrink. "The bully gets what's coming to her"

Or "Upcoming Descent" where the person being shrunk is "a bitch that needs to be taken down a notch"

As if justifying an experience the shrunken perceives as terrifying and not equal to the 'crime'.

Then there is Small Justice which is just torture porn, same as Size Smahers to name a few that Shrinkfan has made themselves.

I just want more lesbian romance in shrinking fantasies that doesn't also go to micro in the first or second act.

There's also a very weird amount of penis worship surrounding SWs

[Tiedefender]

Just read this comic. I found it to be okay. Hits a bit close to home as I have dealt with similar emotions. An interesting concept to be sure. Just not really my cup of tea.

Originally Posted by Doll-Elf

What I am saying is that there is an uncomfortable majority of stories, typically male focused, on keeping the female lead in peril or being punished for perceived slights. It's an obvious power fantasy and if you have been in the scene as long as I have, you would have noticed how violent SW can be and how so many male SW writers seem to be bleeding female people they know irl or simulations of women they know into these works. Often over the idea of control (read: non-consensual)

I' not here to 'knock' against people's kinks. I just don't want people getting a boner over keeping women terrified and under power with the threat of potential violence with them being shrunk.

Take Boom, Boom, Shrink. "The bully gets what's coming to her"

Or "Upcoming Descent" where the person being shrunk is "a bitch that needs to be taken down a notch"

As if justifying an experience the shrunken perceives as terrifying and not equal to the 'crime'.

Then there is Small Justice which is just torture porn, same as Size Smahers to name a few that Shrinkfan has made themselves.

I just want more lesbian romance in shrinking fantasies that doesn't also go to micro in the first or second act.

There's also a very weird amount of penis worship surrounding SWs

I understand how you feel. I agree with your first paragraph for the most part. They do seem to be saturated. Never liked the violence myself or how power and control plays into it.

As for the rest, that is a problem to be solved. Especially the torture porn stuff. That is off putting at best and revolting at worst.

The lesbian stuff does get boring for me. Mostly just bland get to the action. Micro seems to happen way to fast most of the time.

Not sure about the penis worship. Though I would be happy seeing less of them.

You may not like the story I've been writing. It's man with a forced shrunk woman. I'm trying not to include any sex. Though it does have cosplay. Really writing it has been difficult and has gone through a dozen variations. And I still cant get the ending right.

[Doll-Elf]

Originally Posted by Tiedefender

Just read this comic. I found it to be okay. Hits a bit close to home as I have dealt with similar emotions. An interesting concept to be sure. Just not really my cup of tea.






I understand how you feel. I agree with your first paragraph for the most part. They do seem to be saturated. Never liked the violence myself or how power and control plays into it.

As for the rest, that is a problem to be solved. Especially the torture porn stuff. That is off putting at best and revolting at worst.

The lesbian stuff does get boring for me. Mostly just bland get to the action. Micro seems to happen way to fast most of the time.

Not sure about the penis worship. Though I would be happy seeing less of them.

You may not like the story I've been writing. It's man with a forced shrunk woman. I'm trying not to include any sex. Though it does have cosplay. Really writing it has been difficult and has gone through a dozen variations. And I still cant get the ending right.

It's one thing if the person is shrunk and has to deal with it. But having an outside force malevolently be the orchestrator has always felt very wrong to me and often in SW stories, they get away with it or them doing it is in-universe "justified"

[Prof_Sai]

Originally Posted by Doll-Elf

I have read and prefered PlushWomabt's work.

What I am saying is that there is an uncomfortable majority of stories, typically male focused, on keeping the female lead in peril or being punished for perceived slights. It's an obvious power fantasy and if you have been in the scene as long as I have, you would have noticed how violent SW can be and how so many male SW writers seem to be bleeding female people they know irl or simulations of women they know into these works. Often over the idea of control (read: non-consensual)

I' not here to 'knock' against people's kinks. I just don't want people getting a boner over keeping women terrified and under power with the threat of potential violence with them being shrunk.

Take Boom, Boom, Shrink. "The bully gets what's coming to her"

Or "Upcoming Descent" where the person being shrunk is "a bitch that needs to be taken down a notch"

As if justifying an experience the shrunken perceives as terrifying and not equal to the 'crime'.

Then there is Small Justice which is just torture porn, same as Size Smahers to name a few that Shrinkfan has made themselves.

I just want more lesbian romance in shrinking fantasies that doesn't also go to micro in the first or second act.

There's also a very weird amount of penis worship surrounding SWs

I agree with above, mostly. I like to imagine myself as the shrinkee, so all the revenge and injustice fantasies feel like people making up lies about me - which is the worst thing imaginable. Reduction of the Innocent drove me nuts because everyone was so stupidly accepting of the lie that shrinking = guilt, when there was no reason for them to think that.

Shrinking-as-peril fantasy does work for me, as long as it is the shrinking itself, and not "what all these horrible people keep doing.", that is the primary antagonist. Consent is complicated. Too much, and you are just watching people masterbate. Too little is torture porn, as Doll Elf says.

I think that is the key for what is lacking in all these ShrinkFan works: Likable, relatable characters. Everyone in these stories is either an abysmal horror of a person, or a bland clichéd cypher.

[変な変態]

sorry double post

[変な変態]

@Doll-Elf
I very much dislike the stories mentioned as well. Guess there is still a sizable market for those. The problem for Shrinkfan is that the gentler cute stuff doesn't seem to attract as much attention as the crueler stories. Either in subscribers or people who submit comics. That's one of the downsides of having stories like this in a paid subscription. The people who enjoy the more cute/romantic stories are more likely to turn away when their subscriptions delivers stories that are cruel. This is probably less so for people who actually enjoy these stories as the gentler stuff doesn't repel them, these stories would probably be accessed as 'boring' rather then nasty. Thus as time goes on, the gentler stories could become even less of a draw.

Just speaking for myself, I would probably not subscribe to shrinkfan because of those IMO repulsive stories.

@Qzar9999
Interesting idea, might even bring more people to reading your stories. On a side note how is your new story coming along? And did you ever receive my Email?

@chocolatejr9
My two cents are, try to keep it simple and really focus on what you want to show. Too often I see people complain about comics with all setup and no payoff. You only get 15 pages, make sure as much of them as possible show what people want to see. And of course show, don't tell. Every bit of dialog should add to the story.

As for the content, I personally like a bit of embarrassment and loss of control. But it should fun to experience. Like maybe shrinking while getting aroused. I could think of a lot of ways how a girlfriend could shrink her partner by teasing her.