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Old 10-04-2023   #1
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Just read this comic. I found it to be okay. Hits a bit close to home as I have dealt with similar emotions. An interesting concept to be sure. Just not really my cup of tea.






I understand how you feel. I agree with your first paragraph for the most part. They do seem to be saturated. Never liked the violence myself or how power and control plays into it.

As for the rest, that is a problem to be solved. Especially the torture porn stuff. That is off putting at best and revolting at worst.

The lesbian stuff does get boring for me. Mostly just bland get to the action. Micro seems to happen way to fast most of the time.

Not sure about the penis worship. Though I would be happy seeing less of them.

You may not like the story I've been writing. It's man with a forced shrunk woman. I'm trying not to include any sex. Though it does have cosplay. Really writing it has been difficult and has gone through a dozen variations. And I still cant get the ending right.
It's one thing if the person is shrunk and has to deal with it. But having an outside force malevolently be the orchestrator has always felt very wrong to me and often in SW stories, they get away with it or them doing it is in-universe "justified"
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I hate that it's depression that shrinks her.

I think it's a forced allegory that is low hanging fruit for a "deep meaning"
Author RogueScholar here.

Can I ask what you mean by "deep meaning?" Other than the bit about "Laughing but only on the outside" that visually demonstrates how depression can affect people even when they seem relatively happy, I wasn't really digging too much into the concept. My initial thought for the story and the goal that I was working around was "what kind of person would want to shut themselves away and make their tiny living space their entire world?" I did try to be respectful about the topic and hope I didn't go too off course with its depiction, but it was really just one part of the picture I had in mind.


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It's one thing if the person is shrunk and has to deal with it. But having an outside force malevolently be the orchestrator has always felt very wrong to me and often in SW stories, they get away with it or them doing it is in-universe "justified"
I get what you mean in that, regardless of it being "just a fantasy," there does seem to be a bit of aggression in these scenarios and usually plays out as "the bad guy always wins." And I'm sure you understand that a woman being small is going to warrant some sort of danger or peril as opposed to if she were big, especially in, at least from the way I try to structure things, a proper story that warrants investment rather than the majority of the product being just "getting down to business," but I agree that the genre could use some more upbeat stories.

I do actually have some ideas for stories that are more about intentional and consensual shrinking or at least accidental shrinking that then manifests into more fun and lighthearted faire. It'll be a bit before I can get to them, but I'll keep them in mind for my to-do list.
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Author RogueScholar here.

Can I ask what you mean by "deep meaning?" Other than the bit about "Laughing but only on the outside" that visually demonstrates how depression can affect people even when they seem relatively happy, I wasn't really digging too much into the concept. My initial thought for the story and the goal that I was working around was "what kind of person would want to shut themselves away and make their tiny living space their entire world?" I did try to be respectful about the topic and hope I didn't go too off course with its depiction, but it was really just one part of the picture I had in mind.
It's just that depression is a hard topic to write for and my depression comes off in extreme anxiety where I feel overly seen and mentally massive. Like everyone knows what I am thinking and what I did wrong. I feel 100 feet tall and not in a good way.

To me, shrinking is comfort. Being able to slip into someone's arms as they cradle me and smother me with love and kisses as I snuggle into their breasts. I don't have to think or do anything. I'm their pet and they decide everything for me. No bills. Just being taken care of like a good girl. (After writing this I know very well that I have mommy issues. Shush all of you.)



And the concept of depressed people wanting to 'vanish' with something outside of their control like depression is a stereotype to the point where some characters that can change size often get smaller to show they are sad. It's a cliche and personally I don't like the concept. That is not a critique on your writing, just the trope in general.
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It's just that depression is a hard topic to write for and my depression comes off in extreme anxiety where I feel overly seen and mentally massive. Like everyone knows what I am thinking and what I did wrong. I feel 100 feet tall and not in a good way.

To me, shrinking is comfort. Being able to slip into someone's arms as they cradle me and smother me with love and kisses as I snuggle into their breasts. I don't have to think or do anything. I'm their pet and they decide everything for me. No bills. Just being taken care of like a good girl. (After writing this I know very well that I have mommy issues. Shush all of you.)

And the concept of depressed people wanting to 'vanish' with something outside of their control like depression is a stereotype to the point where some characters that can change size often get smaller to show they are sad. It's a cliche and personally I don't like the concept. That is not a critique on your writing, just the trope in general.
I really appreciate your clarification and I take no offense to your criticism about the trope. Couching your metaphor for your anxiety in size-talk was really interesting and has given me a bit to think about. Regardless, I hope I didn't cause any distress with my portrayal.


Honestly, me being a straight male, the way you described the appeal of shrinking is legitimately what I would want to give to my lover. I think the peril or confusion of the moment for her is what I rely on to let myself be her shoulder to lean on so I'm a bit more roundabout in that sense, but I absolutely get what you mean and I really do enjoy that kind of tenderness and romance of making her feel safe and loved, at least when it comes to the major emotions I want to express.

Other times, though...I think something about the situation being a bit mean or unfair can appeal to me too (if you've read "Clearence Sale" you can kind've see what I mean).
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